Slotting options for archetype set on Illusion controller
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Addo,
Posted on: 2012-05-17 07:05 in Player Questions
I would be curious as to how the procs work in Spectral Terror, whether it is a chance every 10 seconds with the fear aura or a chance every time the single target fear is used?
That would be important in your decision.
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Or maybe it would only work when the pet is summoned if at all. That is a possibility.
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I do strongly believe an archetype enhancement proc should have a chance to proc through both the Spectral Terror pet powers. However, I expect that the large area of effect on the aura will give a lower proc chance per target.|
Originally Posted by T_Immortalus
I would be curious as to how the procs work in Spectral Terror, whether it is a chance every 10 seconds with the fear aura or a chance every time the single target fear is used?
That would be important in your decision. Edit: Or maybe it would only work when the pet is summoned if at all. That is a possibility. |
When I tried to figure out the proc chance in a spreadsheet I got these figures for a 4PPM enhancement with the current pre-issue 24 formula:
Blind single target attack: 71% on the main target I am trying to hold, if hit.
Blind AoE part, spawned once per hit with single target attack: 51% on each enemy that was hit by the sleep within the 2ft radius.
Spectral Terror single target attack: 54% on one randomly selected target about every eight seconds, if hit.
Spectral Terror AoE part, triggered once per ten seconds: 17% on each enemy that is hit with the fear within the 20ft radius.
My spreadsheet result is close to actual results in live play for Blind after adjusting for when the pet misses with its attack. Its hit chance roll is not shown in chat log but it should have base 1.0 accuracy.
I am hoping for someone who has tested the proc in Spectral Terror to comment on their results. Is it practical to use for damage purposes while also using the power for control?
Flash needs extra Acc, it's default is well below the other powers in the set.
Deceive needs recharge, so you can stack it, and confuse to extend the duration. Range can also be useful so you can attack outside of standard detection range (a miss on deceive won't aggro the target).
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Originally Posted by Father Xmas
Flash needs extra Acc, it's default is well below the other powers in the set.
Deceive needs recharge, so you can stack it, and confuse to extend the duration. Range can also be useful so you can attack outside of standard detection range (a miss on deceive won't aggro the target). |
The Illusion power set has four powers that can slot controller archetype enhancement sets. I mentioned Flash and Deceive to explain why I could not use the damage proc enhancement from the archetype set there, leaving me with two powers (Blind and Spectral Terror) by process of elimination. To use the second archetype set (when that is released), I would put either two procs in Blind, two procs in Spectral Terror or one proc in each of the powers.
If the set bonuses on the second controller set remain as they were in the version that leaked from beta to these forums, it is likely that I would split the first AT set 5+1 with the proc in Blind and the rest in Spectral Terror, then put 3 from the second set in Blind (including the proc), the remaining 3 in Deceive. Then I fill up remaining slots with SOs or Hami-Os to ensure adequate enhancement values.
I would like to evaluate other options before deciding, because as a premium player I can't use the test server to try out a build before respecing. I have seen several sample builds posted in the controller forum where people have put the damage proc from the archetype set in Spectral Terror. They might be forced to put it there due to set bonus constraints, but it is also possible that they are using that slotting because it works well for them.
What I am hoping for is someone who can relate their personal experience with using PPM procs for damage in the power Spectral Terror.
On my Illusion/Empathy controller, I am considering what to change when the next archetype set comes out. I would also like to prepare for issue 24 when proc chance will change with slotted recharge. I am currently playing as premium without an IO license, so my builds are SOs with archetype sets.
Flash is not in my current build, I am a bit short on power picks.
Deceive is not a good place for a damage proc, since I want it to remain aggro-free. I could still use it for set bonuses from partial archetype sets, but in my current build it is just standard SOs.
Blind is currently enhanced 1 recharge, 1 endurance, 1 accuracy, 2 damage and the archetype enhancement damage proc, at level 47 I plan to start using Hami-Os for acc/mez and dam/mez to improve hold duration. I use this power in every fight. I might want good recharge on Blind for stacking holds, but that will reduce proc chance after issue 24.
Spectral Terror currently holds the remaining five enhancements from the archetype set, for the recharge bonus. I use this power a lot in most fights, but not always (it stops confused enemies from adding to my damage).
Power specifics:
Blind has cast time 1.67 seconds, base recharge 9 seconds, causes normal single target damage and hold, and also creates a pseudopet at the targeted enemy. The pseudopet has an auto power: 2ft radius sphere of mag 2 sleep. It is tagged with a reactivation interval of 2 seconds, but the pet despawns after 1 second. The archetype enhancement proc can trigger both on the single target attack and on any enemy hit by the sleep from the pseudopet. It is even possible to hit the original target twice, if both proc chances trigger.
Spectral Terror has cast time 3.2 seconds, base recharge 45 seconds, creates a pet when cast. The pet lives for 45 seconds before despawning, but is also despawned when the power is reused (only one out at a time). The pet has two powers: one auto 20ft radius sphere of mag 3 Terrorized which also includes -15% tohit, reactivation interval 5 seconds. Also, one single target 50ft range 2.03 cast 6 second recharge power with mag 3 Terrorized, -15% tohit, and status effect Afraid. I think (but have not verified) that the archetype enhancement would proc both from the auto power and the single target attack.
Question:
I like how the proc works in Blind, but I am curious if someone else can share practical experience of using PPM procs in Spectral Terror.
I would just copy the character to Test and try out a respec, but premium players can't access that server.