What primary with /ice close to perma hasten
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Granite Agent,
Posted on: 2012-05-16 10:33 in Stalkers
One thing I'll say, I'd recommend going with elec/ice, but changing some of the slotting and, possibly power choices. In my personal opinion/experience, 6 slotting build up with Gaussians is never a good idea and, quite frankly, a waste of slots. Also, all you need in chilling embrace is an end redux IO. The slow set doesn't provide any good enhancing in terms of bonuses and the acc/dam/recharge components of Tempered Readiness is really wasted on it.
I'll post my build that I have planned for my elec/ice stalker who's currently level 43 below with the data chunk. Don't really have enough time to modify yours too much, but I'll also say that spring attack is generally not needed, and certainly shouldn't be slotted with the purple set. Further more, Jacob's Ladder will end up slowing up the dps once hasten is perma and isn't really useful in terms of an attack chain. Also, the stalker's ATO proc is best placed in either chain induction or thunders strike where the base recharge + activation time is equal to 12ish or higher, chain induction being the preferable place as it should almost always proc unlike in havoc punch.
Having energy absorption, you really shouldn't need weapon mastery for physical perfection. I personally recommend mako mastery if you can switch and/or start of villain and then do tips to get to hero side once the patron is unlocked at lvl 35. Water spout is very effective in terms of reducing the damage that you take since foes will generally be knocked up and getting up for the duration of the power and, thus be unable to attack you. Having hibernate is just an added bonus.
Also, icy bastion is one of those powers which I highly recommend 6 slotting, going with 3 heal/rech IOs from numina/miracle/panacea/or doctored wounds (preferably the 3 lvl 50s, but that pvp IO may be expensive) and likewise with rech/res using aegis/titanium/gladiator. Reason being is that, with perma hoarfrost and capped HP, you can easily reach 90ish hp/sec regen, hard cap resistance to s/l/f/c at 75% with e/n being in the 50s, and ideally be able to have this power up 30 seconds out of 75 seconds with enough recharge.
With an /ice stalker, I highly recommend getting the agility alpha instead as that will help reach soft cap to s/l/e/n easier, boost recharge, and boost the end mod of energy absorption when using it against a single target. Maneuvers shouldn't be needed for an /ice stalker.
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What I will say is that this build is very expensive, but running icy bastion on a 75 second recharge, with hibernate, and (eventually getting barrier which I highly recommend for the +res/def or alternatively the ageless for the debuff resistance, not for +rec), you should for the most part be unkillable with psionic damage being the only major weakness. Alternating icy bastion, barrier, and hibernate when needed (which lasts a total of 30 seconds and will likely be enough time to have icy bastion recharge again if fighting particularly powerful foes). Best of luck!
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Thanks for the advice. as for spring attack i added that because it doesnt take you out of hide. This way i had a second mini-LR while the regular LR was recharging. thanks again. hopefully i will get a few more opinions, and i can mash them all togather and make a great first stalker.
Wow at last check 181 people viewed this post, but only one person has replied. Thats not the forums I know. I would have expected more people to have some insight, or opinions then just one person. Come on folks help me out here.
Thanks,
Here's the Elec/Ice build I plan on using
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If you want to achieve both Perma Hasten and softcapped defenses (before or after one application of Energy Absorption?), Agility is better than Spiritual alpha as it provides End Mod (you'll need it if you're StJ or Spines), Defense and Recharge.
Here's what I play. With Ageless t4 providing 10% extra recharge (and much needed DDR to /Ice), Hasten is perma. With one application of Energy Absorption you're incarnate softcapped to s/l (without anyone in range, you're softcapped to s/l/n/e)
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Hope it helps
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Turtle Snapper - SD/MA/Ice Tanker
Here is my Elec/Ice stalker...I am about 12 secs from perma hasten, but with Incarnate Softcap S/L and regular softcap E/N and perma hoarfrost.
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Frozen Charges: Level 50 Mutation Stalker
Primary Power Set: Electrical Melee
Secondary Power Set: Ice Armor
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Charged Brawl -- SStalkersG-Acc/Dmg:50(A), SStalkersG-Dmg/Rchg:50(5), SStalkersG-Rchg/Hide%:50(7), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(7), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(9), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx:50(9)
Level 1: Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A)
Level 2: Frozen Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(3), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(3), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(5)
Level 4: Havoc Punch -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(13), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(13)
Level 6: Jacobs Ladder -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(15), Erad-Dmg:30(15), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(17), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(17), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(42)
Level 8: Hoarfrost -- Dct'dW-Heal:50(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx:50(31), Dct'dW-Rchg:50(31), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg:50(31), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(33)
Level 10: Assassin's Shock -- Hectmb-Dam%:50(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg:50(19), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(19), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg:50(25), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx:50(29)
Level 12: Wet Ice -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 14: Build Up -- Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg:20(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit:20(37), RechRdx-I:50(37)
Level 16: Chilling Embrace -- TmpRdns-Dmg/Slow:50(A), TmpRdns-Acc/Dmg/Slow:50(33), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx:50(34), P'ngTtl--Rchg%:50(34), ImpSwft-Dam%:30(34)
Level 18: Placate -- RechRdx-I:50(A)
Level 20: Permafrost -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(21), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(21), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(23), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(23), GA-3defTpProc:50(25)
Level 22: Chain Induction -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(40), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(27), Aegis-ResDam:50(27), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(29), Aegis-Psi/Status:50(50)
Level 28: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(33), LkGmblr-Def:50(43)
Level 30: Glacial Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(43), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(45)
Level 32: Thunder Strike -- SStalkersG-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), SStalkersG-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(45), SStalkersG-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(45), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(48), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(48), Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(50)
Level 35: Energy Absorption -- P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod:50(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg:50(36), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(36)
Level 38: Lightning Rod -- Armgdn-Dam%:50(A), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg:50(39), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(39), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg:50(39), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(40)
Level 41: Icy Bastion -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(46)
Level 44: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(46)
Level 47: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg:50(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 49: Superior Conditioning -- EndMod-I:50(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(46)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-End%:50(43)
Level 1: Assassination
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Cimeroran Core Superior Ally
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Degenerative Radial Flawless Interface
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ULTIMATE REGEN GUIDE I22
I am a fan of StJ/Ice.
I believe the build below is my current build. The Musculature/Ageless combo is nice. Chain is AS-CU ... SB-AS-SC-SB-AS-CU. There is a slight pause in the chain.
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Hello forums,
I have 3 different primaries with Ice armor. I haven't tried Ice before, and heard it was good. I am having difficulty deciding which primary to go with. I have made 3 different builds, and my goal is to have soft capped defense, and perma hasten. this will give me true perma hoarfrost. I would appreciate any insight on any of the builds, also if im should go with a different primary let me know. I have gotten close to perma hasten, but not quite without spiritual alpha.
Thanks in advance!
build 1 spine/ice