Poor framerate in any outdoors area?
By
Hyperstrike,
Posted on: 2012-05-14 24:43 in Player Questions
Please also post a HiJack This report. It's quite possible that some third party piece of software is interfering with CoH.
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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In addition to my framerate issues, trying to run the game at my monitor's native resolution causes everything to blur noticeably and all sliders her a slight distortion where it makes it look as if the borders were moving.
Ambient Occlusion is a framerate killer. Turn it off completely in both the Ambient Occlusion and Advanced Occlusion settings.
Also, I'd recommend lowering the Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering settings to more reasonable settings. My recommendation would be AA at 4x and AF at 4x or 8x.
I'd even set Bloom to Off or get it down to a normal setting of 1.0 instead of 2.0 and lower the World Detail to High.
People have reported problems with running Shadows Enabled at No. I'd recommend setting it to Yes and then running Shadow Mode at Stencil Shadows for a minimum or higher.
Finally, your audio driver installation appears to be corrupted. I've seen other seemingly unrelated problems resolved by getting audio drivers installed correctly or updated correctly. Since yours are showing the date as 1/1/0001 while the video driver date shows correctly, that indicates a corrupted installation of the drivers with the funky dates.
A better place to have put this post would have been in the Gameplay / Technical Issues & Bugs forum section since that is where most of the tech folk tend to look for things like this. You may want to PM a member of the OCR team or a forum moderator and ask them to move this thread to that section.
If the game spit out 20 dollar bills people would complain that they weren't sequentially numbered. If they were sequentially numbered people would complain that they weren't random enough.
Black Pebble is my new hero.
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The date is the way it is on my audio drivers because I use a driver tweaked and updated by a third party, since Creative's stock drivers haven't had an update in a long while and are generally incompatible with many things. They work fine. I figured out that FSAA is the problem with my framerate... But my UI and just generally everything has a fine blur to it like a foggy window.
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Originally Posted by Texas Justice
Ambient Occlusion is a framerate killer. Turn it off completely in both the Ambient Occlusion and Advanced Occlusion settings.
Also, I'd recommend lowering the Anti-Aliasing and Anisotropic Filtering settings to more reasonable settings. My recommendation would be AA at 4x and AF at 4x or 8x. I'd even set Bloom to Off or get it down to a normal setting of 1.0 instead of 2.0 and lower the World Detail to High. People have reported problems with running Shadows Enabled at No. I'd recommend setting it to Yes and then running Shadow Mode at Stencil Shadows for a minimum or higher. Finally, your audio driver installation appears to be corrupted. I've seen other seemingly unrelated problems resolved by getting audio drivers installed correctly or updated correctly. Since yours are showing the date as 1/1/0001 while the video driver date shows correctly, that indicates a corrupted installation of the drivers with the funky dates. A better place to have put this post would have been in the Gameplay / Technical Issues & Bugs forum section since that is where most of the tech folk tend to look for things like this. You may want to PM a member of the OCR team or a forum moderator and ask them to move this thread to that section. |
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Uh, YEAH! I should think so!|
Poor framerate in any outdoors area? Resolution: 1920x1080 Anti-aliasing: 32x Anisotropic Filtering: 16x Ambient Occlusion: Ultra Occlusion Strength: Strong with color bleeding |
Inside instances are much less complex in most cases and don't have the poly count that outdoor instances do. Remember, your card is rendering EVERYTHING in your field of vision. So I'm betting the primary culprit is your AF. As there's more distant objects needing filtering in outdoor instances.
Also keep in mind that OGL is harder on a system than equivalent DirectX titles and you have your culprit.
Also, honestly, at 1920x1080 can you even SEE the difference between 32x FSAA and 16x AF and a more modest 8x FSAA and 4x AF?
On top of that you have Ambient Occlusion cup-checking your system in "swing for the fence" fashion.
The combination you have above is something that's going to make pretty much ANY card weep.
You're probably not running out of memory or GPU. You're probably running out of video memory bandwidth and tying up enough CPU with the high AO to starve the graphics card out.
Clicking on the linked image above will take you off the City of Heroes site. However, the guides will be linked back here.
Pretty much what the topic says. My framerate drops to around 10 on all but medium and minimal settings in all outdoor areas, despite having -more- than enough to run the game with all settings on ultra. I've done some searching, but I could not find any sort of solution.
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