Best DM chain for a brute?


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My search fu failed on this topic - getting mired down with results about purple sets, etc.

I'm running a seemless chain of mg-smite-gloom-siphon on a dm/ea and it's nice, especially with soul drain saturated, but not spectacular - I'm wondering if there's anything better.

It's on a dm/ea alt - the chain is seemless without a single luck of the gambler thanks to other set bonuses combined with the recharge bonuses of ea and a t3 spiritual (45% recharge), so I still have room to 'grow' recharge wise if there's a better chain out there.


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I've got a dm/sd scrapper, as far as I know best chain is MG -Smite -SL -Smite.


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Gloom has twice the DPA of SL. I'm sure it's got to be worth working in somewhere.

That said I've tried:

MG-smite-gloom-siphon life
MG-smite-siphon life -smite
MG-smite-gloom-smite

As far as my limited math skills can tell the third chain should do the most. In practice for me it hasn't, which is why I use chain 1, so I'm looking for confirmation that in a vacuum it should.


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Midnight Grasp/Gloom/Smite/Siphon Life/Gloom/Smite ...


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Originally Posted by TheBruteSquad View Post
My search fu failed on this topic - getting mired down with results about purple sets, etc.

I'm running a seemless chain of mg-smite-gloom-siphon on a dm/ea and it's nice, especially with soul drain saturated, but not spectacular - I'm wondering if there's anything better.

It's on a dm/ea alt - the chain is seemless without a single luck of the gambler thanks to other set bonuses combined with the recharge bonuses of ea and a t3 spiritual (45% recharge), so I still have room to 'grow' recharge wise if there's a better chain out there.
Chains are going to change somewhat depending on your level of recharge. It's also going to depend on how proc'd out your various powers are. The best way to tell is to take the numbers from your exact build and go play with NoChain for a bit.

That said, assuming roughly perma-hasten levels of recharge, and a parity of procs, War-Nugget has it right, the 6-chain comes out slightly ahead of the 4-chain on a Brute.


 

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Pretty sure it's Smite-MG-Smite-SL .... sometimes you can work Gloom in if you can get the recharge up ... maybe it is Smite-MG-Gloom-SL which would require less recharge (maybe).

On a scrapper it's definitely Smite-MG-Smite-SL but they don't get gloom.


 

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Originally Posted by Nalrok_AthZim View Post
Get enough recharge and:

Midnight Grasp > Smite > Gloom > Smite > Siphon Life > Smite > Repeat
No. Even at hard-cap recharge, ...Smite/Gloom/Smite... will gap. Also, Gloom is the best DPA in the bunch, and that chain only uses it once per cycle, whereas the chain that War-Nugget and I already posted uses 2 Gloom per cycle and is thus better.

At insane levels of recharge you *might* be able to run MG/Smite/Gloom/Smite and drop Siphon Life, but I'm pretty sure that for any reasonable build that MG/Gloom/Smite/Siphon/Gloom/Smite is going to come out on top.


 

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Originally Posted by LineNoise View Post
No. Even at hard-cap recharge, ...Smite/Gloom/Smite... will gap. Also, Gloom is the best DPA in the bunch, and that chain only uses it once per cycle, whereas the chain that War-Nugget and I already posted uses 2 Gloom per cycle and is thus better.

At insane levels of recharge you *might* be able to run MG/Smite/Gloom/Smite and drop Siphon Life, but I'm pretty sure that for any reasonable build that MG/Gloom/Smite/Siphon/Gloom/Smite is going to come out on top.
Well yeah, there's a gap, but I'm running at 85% recharge and the gap is pretty insignificant. If you absolutely positively 100% must have no gap, then the chain I mentioned isn't for you. I speak as a player who's not looking to be the maximum damage-outputter, just one who knows a fun strong chain.


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