Chain Induction

Originally Posted by Paragon Wiki

Enhancements and Fury will only boost the effectiveness of the initial attacks, not the jumping charge

Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar

I currently have an Elec/Shield/Fire scrapper and have figured a way to fit Chain Induction into my build (A power I have not used since levelling way back when) but I am not sure if it will be worth it.

Basically I run an almost identical build at the moment but without CI and my endurance is almost exactly stable when counting the time it takes to bounce from recently-killed-spawn to about-to-be-killed-spawn but adding CI would throw that out.

Looking at the numbers in mids it does 299.9 damage versus the 254.1 damage from Fireball, so in order to keep my endurance sustainable I would relegate Fireball to my opener (I cast it as I jump toward the spawn) and would use CI in my AoE spam once in the spawn (It has half the recharge and half the endurance so comes out about even).

My main reservation is:

Which makes it sound like only the base ~100 damage will actually hit targets other than the main one, which makes it a poor pick in my circumstances.

My other worry is that it will jump too slowly to actually do much damage in practice, though I think the bug where it ended if the current jump target died has been fixed?

Does anyone know how it works? And would you recommend it over Fireball?

Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA

I'm pretty sure that Wiki information is very, very out of date. Chain powers have been inheriting buffs & enhancements for around 10 issues now as far as I'm aware.

Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA

I'm pretty sure that Wiki information is very, very out of date. Chain powers have been inheriting buffs & enhancements for around 10 issues now as far as I'm aware.

Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect

One thing to remember is that the initial hit of Chain Induction is Smashing/Energy, but only the Energy portion chains.

Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar

Ah, so that means that even with enhancements only ~100 damage is being splashed around - so it isn't looking like a worthwhile power for me (I have nothing like enough endurance to call is a single target power with bonus damage unfortunately).

Edit: This is actually most likely what made me drop the power in the first place.

Originally Posted by Auroxis

Chain damage can proc though, and with SBE procs you'll see it go off very often due to CI's recharge.

CI is pretty much the best ST attack available with some AoE benefits, to skip it is a big mistake.

Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar

Ah, so that means that even with enhancements only ~100 damage is being splashed around - so it isn't looking like a worthwhile power for me

Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar

For single target damage I currently use Fire Blast > Charged Brawl > Ring of Fire> Charged Brawl and can't even sustain the endurance on that (It doesn't bother me so I have never tried to make it sustainable).

I was considering using it instead of RoF and take the slight endurance hit, but I like the range on RoF too much (Whenever an AV hits me I can stand at range and still contribute while regenerating).

If I hadn't gone with Fire Mastery then I definitely would have taken it though, but for me I need to think of it as an AoE if I am to justify the build changes to fit it in.

Originally Posted by Auroxis

RoF = 52 DPA
Fire Blast = 57 DPA
Chain Induction = 77 DPA

If you want DPS, you get CI. If you want some weird ranged scrapper then go ahead and skip it, but you will be missing out on a significant amount of damage.

Originally Posted by PrincessDarkstar

The problem with that is I have had to sacrifice 3 slots from Charged Brawl in order to fit the slots into CI, so although I could get a gain here I would lose single target DPS overall due to the lack of slots in CB.

I would also lose several damage procs from AoE powers, and the only reason I could justify this is if I were to consider CI as an AoE power, but it doesn't sound like it is quite up to the job there.

When the Hybrid slot is released I might be able to swap from Barrier to Ageless, which will solve all my endurance problems and then I will reconsider CI because I can probably steal the slots from a different place (Most likely Stamina) and it will just become bonus AoE.