Another Avengers TV spot this time we get a closer look at Loki's army


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It could be the Annihilation wave, but what Loki is wielding appears to be a staff with the Tesseract/Cosmic Cube attached to it.
Looks more like the Cosmic Control Rod here:


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The track record for superhero movies adding additional characters isn't promising:

Batman Returns: Penguin and Catwoman - decent, some good, some bad
Batman Forever: Robin, Riddler, Two-Face - poor
Batman and Robin: Batgirl, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Bane - unmentionable

X2: lots of extra mutants, Lady Deathstrike, etc. - great
X-Men Last Stand: Phoenix, Juggernaut, etc. - unmentionable

Iron Man 2 - Black Widow, War Machine, Whiplash - decent, but not as good as the first

Superman 2: Zod, Ursa, Non - great
Superman 3 - never happened
Superman 4 - see above

Dark Knight - Joker, Two-Face - best Batman movie so far (not slighting Batman Begins, it was great as well)
Dark Knight Rises - Bane, Catwoman - TBD

I guess it would really determine how well the new characters are written. Some examples:

1 .Joker from Dark Knight - well written, nicely developed character, gave hints on background
2. Lady Deathstrike from X2 - no need for fleshing out, as plot didn't center on her
3. Phoenix from Last Stand - horribly written, considering part of the plot centered on her

I'd really hate to see the plot of a movie mangled beyond recognition, just to add more cool characters to the mix. While seeing Adam Warlock, Nova, and the like would be great in a fight against Thanos, it'd almost be best if it just involved Captain Mar-vell recruiting the Avengers in his capacity as Protector of the Universe. We get backstory, we get a plot, and we can move along without the clutter.


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Also this one:


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Also this one:

It could be the control rod, yes. But that really doesn't fit with how he was brain twisting the scientist that was tasked to study the tesseract.


Or it could just be a really cool, glowing staff.


 

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Still, hope to see them in a future movie. Maybe even Richard Ryder as Nova Prime.
I SO read that as "Richard Pryor as Nova Prime"


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The track record for superhero movies adding additional characters isn't promising:

Batman Returns: Penguin and Catwoman - decent, some good, some bad
Batman Forever: Robin, Riddler, Two-Face - poor
Batman and Robin: Batgirl, Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Bane - unmentionable

X2: lots of extra mutants, Lady Deathstrike, etc. - great
X-Men Last Stand: Phoenix, Juggernaut, etc. - unmentionable

Iron Man 2 - Black Widow, War Machine, Whiplash - decent, but not as good as the first

Superman 2: Zod, Ursa, Non - great
Superman 3 - never happened
Superman 4 - see above

Dark Knight - Joker, Two-Face - best Batman movie so far (not slighting Batman Begins, it was great as well)
Dark Knight Rises - Bane, Catwoman - TBD

I guess it would really determine how well the new characters are written. Some examples:

1 .Joker from Dark Knight - well written, nicely developed character, gave hints on background
2. Lady Deathstrike from X2 - no need for fleshing out, as plot didn't center on her
3. Phoenix from Last Stand - horribly written, considering part of the plot centered on her

I'd really hate to see the plot of a movie mangled beyond recognition, just to add more cool characters to the mix. While seeing Adam Warlock, Nova, and the like would be great in a fight against Thanos, it'd almost be best if it just involved Captain Mar-vell recruiting the Avengers in his capacity as Protector of the Universe. We get backstory, we get a plot, and we can move along without the clutter.
Believe me, the last thing I would want is too many characters. But with Thanos as the villain it does open the door for his cosmic arch foes to appear, Warlock, Drax and Mar-Vell. To be honest, I'd prefer they NOT use Adam Warlock at all for the movies. His character is a bit.....unique, in part thanks to how Jim Starlin defined the character, but also the plot device of how Warlock could/does become the Magus is really worn out.

Drax....we could do without him if Thanos shows up, but his sole purpose is to kill Thanos. If they don't make him mindless like the Hulk or as single minded as he was in his first incarnation then it could work. He'd bring extra brute force to the fight against Thanos, and Thanos in his first incarnation was already strong enough to fight both the Thing and THOR at the same time in hand to hand combat.

Mar-Vell....good luck casting him, because I honestly don't know who could play the role especially after he gains Cosmic Awareness and becomes the Protector of the Universe. He should be pivotal in the fight against Thanos, which was his destined purpose as the Protector and it was Mar-Vell that stopped Thanos the first time.

Still, IF Thanos were to be used they'd pretty much have to bring in one of the above mentioned characters, preferably Mar-Vell. Heh, if Mar-Vell does appear in a movie and the movie is a hit and Mar-Vell is portrayed correctly perhaps Marvel Comics will finally develop enough of a backbone to bring him back for good in the comics.


 

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It could be the control rod, yes. But that really doesn't fit with how he was brain twisting the scientist that was tasked to study the tesseract.


Or it could just be a really cool, glowing staff.
But it does fit with Loki snagging an already-made army, one which bows to the wielder of a specific weapon.

I don't doubt that the Cosmic Cube will come into play (perhaps the Avengers will attempt to use it against the Cosmic Control Rod?), but to have Loki wield it as just a big energy gun and nothing more would be lame since we already saw Red Skull underperform with it. And if he does use the Cosmic Cube to essentially dominate a dimension worth of life and sic them on Earth, thereby using the reality warping properties in one instance and not the other (to simply take over or destroy without all the fuss), it'll be equally lame if not more so.


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Believe me, the last thing I would want is too many characters. But with Thanos as the villain it does open the door for his cosmic arch foes to appear, Warlock, Drax and Mar-Vell. To be honest, I'd prefer they NOT use Adam Warlock at all for the movies. His character is a bit.....unique, in part thanks to how Jim Starlin defined the character, but also the plot device of how Warlock could/does become the Magus is really worn out.

Drax....we could do without him if Thanos shows up, but his sole purpose is to kill Thanos. If they don't make him mindless like the Hulk or as single minded as he was in his first incarnation then it could work. He'd bring extra brute force to the fight against Thanos, and Thanos in his first incarnation was already strong enough to fight both the Thing and THOR at the same time in hand to hand combat.

Mar-Vell....good luck casting him, because I honestly don't know who could play the role especially after he gains Cosmic Awareness and becomes the Protector of the Universe. He should be pivotal in the fight against Thanos, which was his destined purpose as the Protector and it was Mar-Vell that stopped Thanos the first time.

Still, IF Thanos were to be used they'd pretty much have to bring in one of the above mentioned characters, preferably Mar-Vell. Heh, if Mar-Vell does appear in a movie and the movie is a hit and Mar-Vell is portrayed correctly perhaps Marvel Comics will finally develop enough of a backbone to bring him back for good in the comics.
Whedon has said he'd like to actually go smaller for the next Avengers movie. Not sure if he's signed up for the next one, but if this is the case, we probably won't see Thanos until the third one. If they do go smaller, I'm hoping for Ultron or the Masters of Evil.


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