Ice Blaster and ATO


Blue_Centurion

 

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Can I get someone that knows the facts in here to look a this? I am again looking at Ice Blast, thinking Ice/Energy/Cold as my next possible ranged experiment. My problem is in understanding the ATO and the time gate thing.

I understand that the ATO proc will fire everytime in a power that has a base recharge of (is it 12 or 15 seconds, I have seen both posted). This is the base, so even if brought down to 4-7 seconds it will still proc everytime? unless its an AoE in which case it is still good, but no guarantee of anything? For my Electrical Blast I have it in the Ball attack, of course. But for the Ice the best place appears to be in the "Bitter Ice Blast" making this an icy/hot Boss Killa build, with a crashless nuke and other AoE goodness keeping mobs chilling at about 30-50, close, but I'm getting better at this lol.

The problem is the Bitter Ice Blast is exactly 12 seconds base, so if the verbage is "over 12 seconds" base, or if it is "15 second base" I have to rethink the concept a bit. Anyways, can I get a ruling or a flag on this play?


 

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I understand that the ATO proc will fire everytime in a power that has a base recharge of (is it 12 or 15 seconds, I have seen both posted). This is the base, so even if brought down to 4-7 seconds it will still proc everytime? unless its an AoE in which case it is still good, but no guarantee of anything?
That is correct. The proc chance is calculated from base recharge, so you can get much more benefit from the proc with recharge slotting and bonuses. The 100% proc chance threshold 15 seconds for the orange version, 12 seconds for the purple version. A thread with some testing on the beta forums suggests it's actually based on (recharge+cast), not just recharge, but the threshold should be the same.
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The problem is the Bitter Ice Blast is exactly 12 seconds base, so if the verbage is "over 12 seconds" base, or if it is "15 second base" I have to rethink the concept a bit. Anyways, can I get a ruling or a flag on this play?
The proc rate isn't "100% or nothing". BIB will have a very high proc rate, although not quite 100%, with the orange version of the proc, which is still quite good. If/when you can catalyze it, that will become a full 100%.


 

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Can I get someone that knows the facts in here to look a this? I am again looking at Ice Blast, thinking Ice/Energy/Cold as my next possible ranged experiment. My problem is in understanding the ATO and the time gate thing.

I understand that the ATO proc will fire everytime in a power that has a base recharge of (is it 12 or 15 seconds, I have seen both posted). This is the base, so even if brought down to 4-7 seconds it will still proc everytime? unless its an AoE in which case it is still good, but no guarantee of anything? For my Electrical Blast I have it in the Ball attack, of course. But for the Ice the best place appears to be in the "Bitter Ice Blast" making this an icy/hot Boss Killa build, with a crashless nuke and other AoE goodness keeping mobs chilling at about 30-50, close, but I'm getting better at this lol.

The problem is the Bitter Ice Blast is exactly 12 seconds base, so if the verbage is "over 12 seconds" base, or if it is "15 second base" I have to rethink the concept a bit. Anyways, can I get a ruling or a flag on this play?
My latest Incarnate is an Ice/Energy/Cold, haha.

I put the full ATE set into Bitter Ice Blast with the intention of catalysing it later on. It works off base time, not whatever recharge you have it down to. Unfortunately for you, Ice Blast's tier9 nuke has a crash, though I plan to pick up Ageless Core side to solve that issue.

I'm also experimenting with Apocalyse fire proc for fire in Ice Bolt and Impeded Swiftness smash proc in Ice Blast with the intention of swapping it later for Gladiator's Javelin toxic proc, for an attack chain using those three powers with Freeze Ray at times. Currently, Blaster's Wrath proc is active extremely often in Bitter Ice Blast, though once it's catalysed, it should proc at near 100%. I should do a test in warzone on the dummy and keep a log or something, haha.


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