Personally, I think you can do way better than Spiritual. Agility has you lose out on about 8% +rech and gain a massive 3% defense to all. There really isn't any comparison. And speaking of 3% defense... Glad Armor proc. You should be able to put together enough inf to buy one.
Consider Focused Accuracy over Tactics - the tohit debuff resistance is very nice, and you have enough +acc bonuses that there's little point running either power constantly, teams nonwithstanding.
I dislike the lack of +res slotting in True Grit. Sure, it doesn't look like much, but 5% resistance goes a very, very long way on top of softcapped defenses.
Here's my own DM/SD build, which I think runs at a similar total cost to yours. I have a Glad Armor, but no purple sets:
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I was mostly chasing +HP bonuses (2129 is a lot of HP for anything to chew through) after hitting the small-purple-away-from-the-incarnate-softcap softcap (do we have a name for that yet?).
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Thanks, Sly!
I think -8% Rech is a big hit, but I'll take a look at it.
What is the number to seek to softcap v. incarnates? Maybe I'll just squeeze in a few percentage points and leave it at that rather than aim for a cap I might not reach without serious compromise and cash. Especially considering I don't do trials much!
I can see a few things I see as defects in your build. I'm not really an expert on SD scrappers (mine got banished from my player server a while back because I didn't feel like going to the trouble of decking it out or finishing it to 50).
However there's a number of places you appear to have passed up on maxing your defense bonuses.
Level 1: Deflection
- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (7) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (9) Red Fortune - Defense
- (9) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
Level 2: Battle Agility
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (11) Red Fortune - Defense
- (11) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
Level 32: Midnight Grasp
- (A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
- (39) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
- (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (42) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
I know the above won't get you to the incarnate softcap (which I understand to be 59%). However closer is better of course, and my way you gain some recharge without giving anything up.
Too many alts to list.
Yeah. The two Def toggles had twin HO's in them before and got me comfortably over the Def cap. Those cheap-o Red Fortunes are there as a stop-gap until I respec. Thanks, docb!
Here's one of mine that runs really well with either the Spiritual or Agility Alpha T4.
The recharge is good, the travel powers are there, the defenses are really good, and this is with Cytos replacing the Enzymes in i22. It IS a small downgrade (I think I lost .5% Ranged and .4% Mellee overall).
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Paybak: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(13), Hectmb-Dam%(15)
Level 1: Deflection -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(3), LkGmblr-Def(9), HO:Cyto(13), GA-3defTpProc(31)
Level 2: Battle Agility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(5), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(11), HO:Enzym(17)
Level 4: True Grit -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(5), Numna-Heal/Rchg(17), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Numna-Heal(19), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(21)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(7)
Level 8: Siphon Life -- Nictus-Heal(A), Nictus-Heal/HP/Regen/Rchg(9), HO:Golgi(11), HO:Nucle(15), HO:Nucle(21), HO:Nucle(23)
Level 10: Active Defense -- HO:Membr(A)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(23)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(25), Zephyr-ResKB(33)
Level 16: Maneuvers -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Oblit-Dmg(27), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(29), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(34), Oblit-%Dam(42)
Level 20: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 22: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- RzDz-EndRdx/Stun(A)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(27), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(29), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(31), GSFC-ToHit(42), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(43)
Level 28: Spring Attack -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(33), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(33), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Oblit-%Dam(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 30: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(34), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(36), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(45), Mako-Acc/Dmg(45), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-%Dam(36), Oblit-Dmg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(40), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 38: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(46), HO:Cyto(48)
Level 41: Char -- Entrpc-Heal%(A)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Decim-Build%(A)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(50), Posi-Dmg/Rng(50)
Level 49: Super Speed -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(50)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- RgnTis-Regen+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(31)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(37), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(37), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(39), P'Shift-Acc/Rchg(39), P'Shift-EndMod(40)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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End Game- LVL 50 Scrapper-DM/INV
Ripjak- LVL 50 Defender-Rad/Rad
Extruder- LVL 50 Scrapper-DM/REG
Juicie- LVL 50 Blaster-ELEC/ELEC
Mind Sync- LVL 50 Controller-MIND/FF
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Well -8% works out to about between .6 to 1.1 seconds on Soul Drain's recharge (depending on how much +rech you already have), and you have enough recharge to run MG-Smite-SL-Smite gapless anyway. The difference in DPS is very small. The difference in survivability you get from 3% +def is comparatively huge, since it provides a handy cushion against defense debuffs. Or simply let you hit the softcap without needing as many +defense bonuses (which means you can get other stuff... like +rech).|
Originally Posted by Bobitron
I think -8% Rech is a big hit, but I'll take a look at it.
What is the number to seek to softcap v. incarnates? Maybe I'll just squeeze in a few percentage points and leave it at that rather than aim for a cap I might not reach without serious compromise and cash. Especially considering I don't do trials much! |
As for softcapping, the incarnate softcap is 59%. The sacrifices required to hit that much defense (even to a single position) probably won't be worth it. Hitting 46.5% to all to softcap to incarnate content by chomping a single small purple is a more practical goal, I think. More defense is, of course, gravy. Defense debuffs are fairly plent¡ful, and SD can't ignore them to the degree SR does.
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Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
Thanks, guys. Appreciate the input!
I'll have to review my funds and see what comes next. Might start saving for a Glad Armor and just try to squeeze out a couple points more Def without dramatically changing the build.
If you build around the Glad Proc you can change your build dramatically.
Virtue: @Santorican
Dark/Shield Build Thread
I could use a hand with my upcoming respec. I'd like to take my existing build, which I've been happy with for quite a while now, and add more Def (to approach the soft cap even fighting Incarnate enemies) without dramatically sacrificing +Rech. I'm not quite certain what numbers I need to hit Def-wise to cap v. lv54's, but that would be nice.
The recent changes to HO's forced me to drop the Enzymes from my SD toggles and put in some cheap Red Fortunes, but other than that I haven't touched the build much in a couple issues.
I have maybe 1.5bn to spend and 5-10 hero merits saved.
Here's the current build. Thanks for your time and advice!
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Victorae: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite
- (A) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage
- (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance
- (3) Touch of Death - Damage/Recharge
- (5) Touch of Death - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (5) Touch of Death - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (7) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative)
Level 1: Deflection- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (7) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (9) Red Fortune - Defense
- (9) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
Level 2: Battle Agility- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (11) Red Fortune - Defense
- (11) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
Level 4: True Grit- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
- (13) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
- (13) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
- (15) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (15) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (17) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 6: Combat Jumping- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
Level 8: Siphon Life- (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
- (19) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (19) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
- (21) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
- (21) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
- (23) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge
Level 10: Active Defense- (A) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
- (23) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
- (25) HamiO:Membrane Exposure
Level 12: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (25) Recharge Reduction IO
- (27) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 14: Boxing- (A) Empty
Level 16: Against All Odds- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 18: Dark Consumption- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (27) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
- (29) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
- (29) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge
- (31) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
- (31) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 20: Phalanx Fighting- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (31) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
Level 22: Tough- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
- (33) Titanium Coating - Endurance/Recharge
- (33) Titanium Coating - Resistance
Level 24: Weave- (A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
- (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (34) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 26: Soul Drain- (A) Obliteration - Damage
- (34) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge
- (34) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge
- (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (36) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
Level 28: Super Jump- (A) Jumping IO
Level 30: Maneuvers- (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
- (37) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
- (37) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
- (37) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Red Fortune - Defense
- (39) Red Fortune - Endurance
Level 32: Midnight Grasp- (A) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
- (39) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
- (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (42) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
Level 35: Shield Charge- (A) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge
- (42) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (42) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge
- (43) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
- (43) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage
- (43) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Recharge
Level 38: Tactics- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
- (45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
- (45) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
- (46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
- (46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
Level 41: Conserve Power- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 44: Physical Perfection- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (46) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 47: Assault- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 49: Grant Cover- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 50: Spiritual Core ParagonLevel 50: Pyronic Partial Core Judgement
Level 50: Reactive Core Interface
Level 50: Cimeroran Total Core Improved Ally
Level 50: Ageless Core Invocation
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Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 2: Rest- (A) Empty
Level 2: Swift- (A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Hurdle- (A) Jumping IO
Level 2: Health- (A) Miracle - +Recovery
- (48) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
Level 2: Stamina- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (48) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
- (48) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
- (50) Performance Shifter - Accuracy/Recharge
- (50) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
- (50) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 1: Critical HitLevel 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals: