A quick question on the NC-Soft Updater... 2 patches in the same day?


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So, as of now, I'm having the NC-Soft updater download i22 for Live & the patch is only, 503.2 MB.

Now, is that the only patch for i22 or is there going too be a second patch after that?


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I suspect that there will be the download/update and then a lengthy time for maintenance, just like always. Not much point to having two seperate patches.


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There should be only one update.
Unless something terribly broken creeps onto live that wasn't noticed as being present on Beta.



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There should be only one update.
Unless something terribly broken creeps onto live that wasn't noticed as being present on Beta.
Like the UI randomly rearranging itself?

Oh wait, that was noticed as being present on beta... Hmmm...


 

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I could see where they might break up the overall Issue 22 update into several patches. There might be a "main" Issue 22 patch that includes the bulk of the artwork and other low risk stuff that's been done for months and then one or more smaller patches that represent the more recent changes in the last few weeks on beta. Either way it'll all come together as the final Issue 22 build.


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I could see where they might break up the overall Issue 22 update into several patches. There might be a "main" Issue 22 patch that includes the bulk of the artwork and other low risk stuff that's been done for months and then one or more smaller patches that represent the more recent changes in the last few weeks on beta. Either way it'll all come together as the final Issue 22 build.
I really doubt it. The patch that's downloadable now is the same version number as the last one to hit beta a week or two ago.

They very rarely push anything live that hasn't been on test or beta at some point -- it's extremely risky to push out untested changes even if it's a bug fix. It may even be against their internal procedures to do so, and would take a dire emergency for it to be necessary.


 

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I really doubt it. The patch that's downloadable now is the same version number as the last one to hit beta a week or two ago.

They very rarely push anything live that hasn't been on test or beta at some point -- it's extremely risky to push out untested changes even if it's a bug fix. It may even be against their internal procedures to do so, and would take a dire emergency for it to be necessary.
I wasn't suggesting that they were pushing an untested patch live today. I'm saying that in order "recreate" the lastest full build of an application like this you can actually accomplish that via multiple subpatches. Many anti-virus applications do that kind of "piecemeal" updating all the time.


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I wasn't suggesting that they were pushing an untested patch live today. I'm saying that in order "recreate" the lastest full build of an application like this you can actually accomplish that via multiple subpatches. Many anti-virus applications do that kind of "piecemeal" updating all the time.
Yes, almost went back and edited to clarify that doing that is certainly possible. We've even seen pre-patches with art assets background downloaded in the past, though the new launcher doesn't seem to be able to do that.

It's just not what they're doing for I22.


 

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Yes, almost went back and edited to clarify that doing that is certainly possible. We've even seen pre-patches with art assets background downloaded in the past, though the new launcher doesn't seem to be able to do that.

It's just not what they're doing for I22.
I was simply offering a possible explaination for what Robo_Knight was seeing. No big deal either way.


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So, as of now, I'm having the NC-Soft updater download i22 for Live & the patch is only, 503.2 MB.

Now, is that the only patch for i22 or is there going too be a second patch after that?
The seemingly small size of the download is not out of the ordinary. Historically speaking, when they are going to do a large issue update, they start trickling out parts of the client side update prior to the actual launch. Some of the updates we have seen recently are likely this sort of thing. Doing it this way helps to reduce the size of the download on launch day which can drastically reduce the impact on the patch servers.


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I wouldn't really consider 500MB to be a "small" patch, since the whole game itself only takes up about a 4GB footprint. Not like some other bloated MMOs that chew up your hard disk yet somehow have lower resolution textures and blockier models than we do.

500MB sounds about right to me based on the amount of content and the sizes of the patches that were hitting beta.