A very belated 'My bad' for dissing an aspect of the Alignment system
By
GuyPerfect,
Posted on: 2012-03-02 11:07 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Those Vigilante -> Villain missions (and the Rogue -> Hero missions) were added later, actually. When the alignment system first came out, your disappointment was justified.
But yes, they're cool missions 
You kinda slowly lose sight of the point of right and wrong and descend into madness.
Yeah, at the time you tried them, the Vigilante missions in the Rogue Isles were just copy-paste versions of the Villain ones (although with a mild rewrite of the reasoning) and the same for Rogues in Paragon.
The new ones are definitely much better.
Main Hero: Mazey - level 50 + 1 fire/fire/fire blaster.
Main Villain: Chained Bot - level 50 + 1 Robot/FF Mastermind.
BattleEngine - "And the prize for the most level headed response ever goes to Mazey"
AH, then I guess I can retract my 'my bad' response then lol.
Anyway, I'm very glad they've sorted it out by now. Very nice work on these Vig-> Vill and Rogue-> Hero tips.
Eco
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
[The Incarnate System is] Jack Emmert all over again, only this time it's not "1 hero = 3 white minions" it's "1 hero = 3 white rocks."
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Likewise, the Rogue->Hero missions share a similar theme, although I think they pulled them off better. You see an opportunity to make some money or whatever, some inconvenient thing happens, and you have to do something quote-unquote "good" to keep it from coming back and biting you later... and then... maybe you would have done it for the good anyway? Could this be?
When the alignment system was introduced, I loved the tips and the Hero/Vig choices a hero could make in paragon. I felt they were pretty cool in depicting the slide from heroism to Vigilanteism. When I turned Rogue in Beta, however, I was disappointed to see that when i went forth to the Rogue isles to take my vigilante to the heart of evil, the tips that dropped only had villainous choices. I wanted to continue being a vigilante in the RI. I didn't bother continuing, and when it hit live, as i didn't have any real reason to move my hero over to full Villain, i likewise didn't bother going beyond Vig, and that was on my main, to get the RI explo badges and some defeats.
Recently, i decided to take him through Vig into Vill and then Rogue and back to hero, to get the badges.
I was pleasantly surprised to find the actual 'Villainous' tip missions that a Vig gets to do in the RI are all, from a stroyline point of view, vigilante missions. My vigilante's aim in them all is actually to do good, even though they are dubbed 'villainous' by the mechanics.
In fact, the 'villainous' tip missions a Vig gets in the RI are exactly what I wanted my Vig to do!
Likewise, after becoming a villain and doing the actual villainous missions to get the badges, and then picking Rogue choices, the 'reluctant hero' atmosphere is very well depicted IMO. And when my character, now a Rogue, went to paragon, the 'hero' tip missions he got were all very nice tales showing him trying to do stuff for purely selfish reasons only to be cajoled or otherwise mildly conned into the greater good.
I realise that my initial disappointment was pretty much solely caused by the titling of the tips rather than the actual narrative content, which i should have played through before making up my mind.
My bad.
I realise now that my vigilante could stay in the Rogue isles, doing essentially vigilante activities endlessly, if he chose to dismiss the morality mission.
Doh.
Eco
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)