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Originally Posted by Twigman
1) Does the build up still instantly recharge if the T-9 crits?
2) If the first answer is a yes; Then if you use build up while in hide, then will the T-9 auto crit and recharge the build up? 3) If the second answer is yes; Then, will the building crit chance make the build up perma-able? |
Yes.
No. The building crit chance is on Assassin's Strike only, not Concentrated Strike (which is the tier 9).
Placate + Concentrated Strike or having the Stalker ATO proc go off + Concentrated Strike will recharge Build Up, meaning that KM can maintain Build Up for a very high uptime and easily stack it (BU->CS from Hide->BU), and it's incredible with a Gaussian's for potential triple-stacking. I didn't pick it up on beta but some reports in the Stalker feedback thread said that the ATO proc was going off in Assassin's Strike often enough to generate a perma-BU attack chain - that's probably a bug.
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Not so sure, at least, no so sure with my attack chain if it's a bug. My chain is a 10 second Chain (little longer when refrshing BU), as such, it's more likely to have the proc go off for the chain.|
Originally Posted by Siolfir
Yes.
Yes. No. The building crit chance is on Assassin's Strike only, not Concentrated Strike (which is the tier 9). Placate + Concentrated Strike or having the Stalker ATO proc go off + Concentrated Strike will recharge Build Up, meaning that KM can maintain Build Up for a very high uptime and easily stack it (BU->CS from Hide->BU), and it's incredible with a Gaussian's for potential triple-stacking. I didn't pick it up on beta but some reports in the Stalker feedback thread said that the ATO proc was going off in Assassin's Strike often enough to generate a perma-BU attack chain - that's probably a bug. |
4 times a minute I believe. Then when that proc doesn't go off, CS has it's chance to proc on it's own anyways.
Makes it easier to keep the BU going on.
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What is the % chance to crit with CS? then +25%
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Originally Posted by Siolfir
Yes.
Yes. No. The building crit chance is on Assassin's Strike only, not Concentrated Strike (which is the tier 9). Placate + Concentrated Strike or having the Stalker ATO proc go off + Concentrated Strike will recharge Build Up, meaning that KM can maintain Build Up for a very high uptime and easily stack it (BU->CS from Hide->BU), and it's incredible with a Gaussian's for potential triple-stacking. I didn't pick it up on beta but some reports in the Stalker feedback thread said that the ATO proc was going off in Assassin's Strike often enough to generate a perma-BU attack chain - that's probably a bug. |
The chance is base 10% with +3% for each teammate that is "near" you. So on a full team of 8 it has a 34% chance of getting a critical hit.
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Thought it was a 20% chance for crit with CS.
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Originally Posted by Blood Red Arachnid
The chance is base 10% with +3% for each teammate that is "near" you. So on a full team of 8 it has a 34% chance of getting a critical hit.
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You don't count as a teammate, so it's actually 31%.|
Originally Posted by Blood Red Arachnid
The chance is base 10% with +3% for each teammate that is "near" you. So on a full team of 8 it has a 34% chance of getting a critical hit.
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I'm not certain if the base is 20% or 10% for CS, though - originally it was a flat 20% for both Scrappers and Stalkers with no accounting for Stalkers scaling chance or guaranteed critical from hidden. When it was changed, the value may have been set to the default.
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Right... what did I say?
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You said 34% on a full team, which is 3% too high for the normal crit rate because the Stalker doesn't get counted - I was just trying to clarify things to prevent spreading incorrect values around, is all.|
Originally Posted by Blood Red Arachnid
Right... what did I say?
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Now in an attempt to obfuscate them, I'll state that for Concentrated Strike in particular it could be 41% due to a higher base critical chance (20% base + 3% per teammate within 30' radius of the Stalker, not counting yourself). I'm not certain that this is the case and personally suspect that it's 31% instead, but in neither case is it 34%.
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1) Does the build up still instantly recharge if the T-9 crits?
2) If the first answer is a yes; Then if you use build up while in hide, then will the T-9 auto crit and recharge the build up?
3) If the second answer is yes; Then, will the building crit chance make the build up perma-able?