Posion Overpowered in PvP, needs EXTREME nerfing
By
Darth_Khasei,
Posted on: 2012-01-14 10:01 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
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Originally Posted by WhyNerfPFF
The poison set needs nerfing on Envenom, and Weaken. Envenom, this power debuffs 45% defense and debuffs 45% with one click, and recharges fast, and this is without being enhanced. This power needs to be taken down a redone. Also secondary effects from Weaken also further debuff against someones defense debuff resistance making Poison by far the best debuffing toon in the game. For PvP this completely wipes out your defense to below ZERO and no debuffer should have that power in the game. Now that the devs "finally" took a looked into Kinetic Melee by scrappers, its time to take a look a posion. Thanks.
BTW, you can barely heal or regen once Envenom is applied, another reason the set needs to be looked into. Thank you devs |
i believe you have zero clue as to how defense debuff resistance and elusivity works in this game.
anything that relies purely on defense (SR, Shields, etc), and is correctly built will shrug off a poison debuff.
cold has a lot more -def potential than poison, and benumb is basically a clone of weaken on a longer timer.
Sorry, you need to look at the debuff resistance numbers, they are the same. You are talking about 3 seperate powers. I am talking about two powers. If two powers take basically close to what 3 powers do, then thats Overpowered. You need to know how defense and defense resistance work before you run your mouth. I see you have no clue.
HELLO!!! Poison has no Self Heal, it's mostly SINGLE TARGET(with half the effect in a 8foot radius), not AoE like any other. Poison is FINE!
Poison is meant to be 'weak' without its debuffs. Sneak up on one you win. It sneaks up on you, you die. Simple!
Plus it NEEDS to hit for it to work. Not auto hit like the Toggles in Rad. It can't face other MMs that easily without some back up.
The "AoE" part was a Buff since NO ONE* played a Poison before.
*I had mine before the Buff and i saw a few others, Nerco/Poison, Mercs/Poison, Bots/Poison, but it was far and few between poisons.
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Yet another victim of SuckaFisher's poison PvP build.
The development team and this community deserved better than this from NC Soft. Best wishes on your search.
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Originally Posted by WhyNerfPFF
Sorry noob, you need to look at the debuff resistance numbers, they are the same. You are talking about 3 seperate powers. I am talking about two powers. If two powers take basically close to what 3 powers do, then thats Overpowered. You need to know how defense and defense resistance work before you run your mouth. I see you have no clue.
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i'm quizzing you.
what happens when an SR tank gets hit by envenom?
also, please learn to leverage alpha slots.
if you're crying about weaken and you don't have the bonuses to offset whatever effects are bothering you, you might want to consider not running cardiac, you stupid noub.
figure out how -special works.
then come back and argue coherently.
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Originally Posted by OmniNogard
Plus it NEEDS to hit for it to work. Not auto hit like the Toggles in Rad. It can't face other MMs that easily without some back up.
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to sum it up, it means: you can't out-blast a poison if you're both ready to go at it.
but something as laughable as an SR or a Shield tank will possibly kill one with little effort given enough time.
colds can also do the job... but it comes down to timing on that one. i could explain more, but i seriously feel like i'm trying to explain calculus to a toaster oven whenever whynerfpff talks.
The poison set needs nerfing on Envenom, and Weaken. Envenom, this power debuffs 45% defense and debuffs 45% with one click, and recharges fast, and this is without being enhanced. This power needs to be taken down a redone. Also secondary effects from Weaken also further debuff against someones defense debuff resistance making Poison by far the best debuffing toon in the game. For PvP this completely wipes out your defense to below ZERO and no debuffer should have that power in the game. Now that the devs "finally" took a looked into Kinetic Melee by scrappers, its time to take a look a posion. Thanks.
BTW, you can barely heal or regen once Envenom is applied, another reason the set needs to be looked into.
Thank you devs