First time Dom.. need some advice


Azucar_NA

 

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Okay so I've decided to try something i've never done before, play a dom (probably why I have no 50's either.. blasted alts) anyway I posted a build here http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=281781 for a plant/fire dom with Generic IO's, i read that plant/fire was a good combo for a first time dom. So my questions are, how's the build and is there a better combo?
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Level 50 Magic Dominator
Primary Power Set: Plant Control
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Assault
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Strangler -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(5), Hold-I(5), RechRdx-I(7), Acc-I(7)
Level 1: Flares -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(3)
Level 2: Roots -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(11), Acc-I(13), Immob-I(13), Dmg-I(15), Immob-I(15)
Level 4: Incinerate -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(17), Acc-I(17), Dmg-I(19), EndRdx-I(19)
Level 6: Maneuvers -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(33), DefBuff-I(34), DefBuff-I(34)
Level 8: Seeds of Confusion -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(21), Conf-I(21), Conf-I(23), Range-I(23)
Level 10: Fire Breath -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(25), Dmg-I(25), Dmg-I(27), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 12: Fire Blast -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(29), Dmg-I(29), Dmg-I(31), EndRdx-I(31)
Level 14: Spirit Tree -- RechRdx-I(A), Heal-I(31), Heal-I(33), Range-I(33)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 18: Vines -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(36), Hold-I(36), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 20: Flurry -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Burnout -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 24: Embrace of Fire -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 26: Carrion Creepers -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(40), Dmg-I(40), Dmg-I(40), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 28: Consume -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 30: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(43)
Level 32: Fly Trap -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(43), Acc-I(45), Dmg-I(45), Immob-I(45)
Level 35: Fire Ball -- RechRdx-I(A), Acc-I(46), Acc-I(46), Dmg-I(46), Dmg-I(48), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 38: Blaze -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(48), Dmg-I(50), Dmg-I(50)
Level 41: Fire Shield -- EndRdx-I(A), ResDam-I(43), EndRdx-I(50)
Level 44: Rise of the Phoenix -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Melt Armor -- DefDeb-I(A)
Level 49: Recall Friend -- IntRdx-I(A)
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(9), Heal-I(11)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(3), EndMod-I(9)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Domination
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run



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heres the build in case anyone needs it.


 

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Switch flurry for superspeed, you have enough attacks and it will help you get close to angle confuse. vines(?) and spirit tree could be replaced w/ aid other/aid self. You could fit vengeance in somewhere (take out recall friend).


 

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Maybe its just me..but that Mids section is flat out the worst combination of colors. It hurts my eyes to read it. Change to something with less (more?) contrast.


 

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Originally Posted by Azucar_NA View Post
Switch flurry for superspeed, you have enough attacks and it will help you get close to angle confuse. vines(?) and spirit tree could be replaced w/ aid other/aid self. You could fit vengeance in somewhere (take out recall friend).
I didnt take superspeed because I have ninja run But thanks for the advice, I'll probably do that.

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Maybe its just me..but that Mids section is flat out the worst combination of colors. It hurts my eyes to read it. Change to something with less (more?) contrast

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.953
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Level 50 Magic Dominator
Primary Power Set: Plant Control
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Assault
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Strangler -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(5), Hold-I(5), RechRdx-I(7), Acc-I(7)
Level 1: Flares -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(3)
Level 2: Roots -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(11), Acc-I(13), Immob-I(13), Dmg-I(15), Immob-I(15)
Level 4: Incinerate -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(17), Acc-I(17), Dmg-I(19), EndRdx-I(19)
Level 6: Maneuvers -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(33), DefBuff-I(34), DefBuff-I(34)
Level 8: Seeds of Confusion -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(21), Conf-I(21), Conf-I(23), Range-I(23)
Level 10: Fire Breath -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(25), Dmg-I(25), Dmg-I(27), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 12: Fire Blast -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(29), Dmg-I(29), Dmg-I(31), EndRdx-I(31)
Level 14: Spirit Tree -- RechRdx-I(A), Heal-I(31), Heal-I(33), Range-I(33)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 18: Vines -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(36), Hold-I(36), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 20: Flurry -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Burnout -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 24: Embrace of Fire -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 26: Carrion Creepers -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(40), Dmg-I(40), Dmg-I(40), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 28: Consume -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 30: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(43)
Level 32: Fly Trap -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(43), Acc-I(45), Dmg-I(45), Immob-I(45)
Level 35: Fire Ball -- RechRdx-I(A), Acc-I(46), Acc-I(46), Dmg-I(46), Dmg-I(48), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 38: Blaze -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(48), Dmg-I(50), Dmg-I(50)
Level 41: Fire Shield -- EndRdx-I(A), ResDam-I(43), EndRdx-I(50)
Level 44: Rise of the Phoenix -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Melt Armor -- DefDeb-I(A)
Level 49: Recall Friend -- IntRdx-I(A)
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(9), Heal-I(11)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(3), EndMod-I(9)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Domination
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run


hows that? That's the original build, without any changes.


 

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Um... taking fire mastery, but not taking Rain of Fire???

That power is the reason for fire mastery. If you don't want the added AoE for some reason and like the buff/debuffs I'd recommend a few other APP/PPP before fire then.


Please buff Ice Control.

 

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Um... taking fire mastery, but not taking Rain of Fire???

That power is the reason for fire mastery. If you don't want the added AoE for some reason and like the buff/debuffs I'd recommend a few other APP/PPP before fire then.
So would you advice maybe switching out Melt armor for rain of fire? Like I said I've never played a dom and I dont have any experience with the epic pools besides energy on tanks and the equivalent on scrappers. Or do you have a suggestion for another APP?


 

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Originally Posted by Subject87 View Post
So would you advice maybe switching out Melt armor for rain of fire? Like I said I've never played a dom and I dont have any experience with the epic pools besides energy on tanks and the equivalent on scrappers. Or do you have a suggestion for another APP?
Nah, keep the Fire APP it synergizes well with Embrace of Fire I say. Drop Melt Armor and switch it with Rain of Fire. I would also drop recall friend and flurry...Also there's no need for you to use Burnout. Even if you kept Melt Armor and use burnout to recharge the power the debuff of Melt Armor is not worth losing the power picks. What do you go for Transportation wise? Superspeed, Super Jump, Teleport?



 

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Originally Posted by Tater Todd View Post
Nah, keep the Fire APP it synergizes well with Embrace of Fire I say. Drop Melt Armor and switch it with Rain of Fire. I would also drop recall friend and flurry...Also there's no need for you to use Burnout. Even if you kept Melt Armor and use burnout to recharge the power the debuff of Melt Armor is not worth losing the power picks. What do you go for Transportation wise? Superspeed, Super Jump, Teleport?
There's nothing else he can use to debuff enemies with. It's multiplicative in teams and fire ball is inferior to RoF. I'd take melt armor before fire ball (I barely can afford the end even with consume). On my permadom build for earth/fire/fire it's up every 60s, or about every 2nd spawn.


 

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Originally Posted by Azucar_NA View Post
There's nothing else he can use to debuff enemies with. It's multiplicative in teams and fire ball is inferior to RoF. I'd take melt armor before fire ball (I barely can afford the end even with consume). On my permadom build for earth/fire/fire it's up every 60s, or about every 2nd spawn.
Azu, the -11 resistance is not much...if he wanted to go that route then he should just go Ice. Unslotted Melt sits at a whopping 200 seconds while Fireball sits at 32 and you can get it to 10 seconds with the above recharge. I would say the best defense or debuff is killing them. Clearly Fireball and RoF would easily compensate for the small -11 resistance debuff. Yes it's uses up a lot of end but with the proper slotting and a small dependance on consume he will be fine. If he goes the Incarnate route he could get even more reckless. I farm only with my Plant/Fire and he doesn't need to use Fire Shield to stay alive ( loves aid self though hehe).

So you have Melt Armor with a small radius of only 10, on a 200 second timer that can only debuff mobs by -11% compared to Fireball and RoF that deal almost 500 points of damage unslotted when buffed by embrace of Fire.

When you have a /Fire dom it's hard NOT to go with the Fire APP I think.

My Perma Plant/Fire with all his IO's and incarni lovin' can dish out 3,194 pts of damage in 60 seconds just using RoF and Fireball and that's up every spawn. That's debuffing as well...in an aggressive way :P

God help him if he picked up ageless!



 

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Originally Posted by Tater Todd View Post
Nah, keep the Fire APP it synergizes well with Embrace of Fire I say. Drop Melt Armor and switch it with Rain of Fire. I would also drop recall friend and flurry...Also there's no need for you to use Burnout. Even if you kept Melt Armor and use burnout to recharge the power the debuff of Melt Armor is not worth losing the power picks. What do you go for Transportation wise? Superspeed, Super Jump, Teleport?
I use Ninja run or Rocket board for Transportation.


 

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Okay heres a bit of a revision, I dropped the teleport pool for the medicine pool and dropped Burnout and flurry for Tactics and vengence.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.953
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Level 50 Magic Dominator
Primary Power Set: Plant Control
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Assault
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Medicine
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Strangler -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(5), Hold-I(5), RechRdx-I(7), Acc-I(7)
Level 1: Flares -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(3)
Level 2: Roots -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(11), Acc-I(13), Immob-I(13), Dmg-I(15), Immob-I(15)
Level 4: Incinerate -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(17), Acc-I(17), Dmg-I(19), EndRdx-I(19)
Level 6: Maneuvers -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(33), DefBuff-I(34), DefBuff-I(34)
Level 8: Seeds of Confusion -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(21), Conf-I(21), Conf-I(23), Range-I(23)
Level 10: Fire Breath -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(25), Dmg-I(25), Dmg-I(27), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 12: Fire Blast -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(29), Dmg-I(29), Dmg-I(31), EndRdx-I(31)
Level 14: Spirit Tree -- RechRdx-I(A), Heal-I(31), Heal-I(33), Range-I(33)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 18: Vines -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(36), Hold-I(36), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(37)
Level 20: Tactics -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(34), ToHit-I(36)
Level 22: Vengeance -- Heal-I(A)
Level 24: Embrace of Fire -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 26: Carrion Creepers -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(40), Dmg-I(40), Dmg-I(40), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 28: Consume -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 30: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(43)
Level 32: Fly Trap -- Acc-I(A), Dmg-I(43), Acc-I(45), Dmg-I(45), Immob-I(45)
Level 35: Fire Ball -- RechRdx-I(A), Acc-I(46), Acc-I(46), Dmg-I(46), Dmg-I(48), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 38: Blaze -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(48), Dmg-I(50), Dmg-I(50)
Level 41: Fire Shield -- EndRdx-I(A), ResDam-I(43), EndRdx-I(50)
Level 44: Rise of the Phoenix -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Rain of Fire -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Aid Other -- Heal-I(A)
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(9), Heal-I(11)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(3), EndMod-I(9)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Domination
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run



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Build must be good