WP/SS Tank Build Advice


Comicsluvr

 

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I have a WP/SS Tank recently at 50 who has common IOs and little else. I know I likely built him flawed on the way up but he's a FUN toon. However, I now want to start down the Incarnate path (I have the Alpha unlocked with the T1 Regen one in it IIRC) and get him IO'd out. However this is my only WP Tank and I need build advice.

One Caveat: I really like Laser Beam Eyes so I have to keep it. All else is up for grabs.

Second Caveat: I insist on having Taunt by lvl 20. Not necessarily slotted to the ceiling but I want it by then for team help.

I want one of those Tanks that people look at at say 'Wow man I can't believe you Tanked all those dudes and lived.' Price is no object...I'll get there eventually.

Any help from the Forum would be appreciated.


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Well first off go to mids and try to build u a wp/ss tank from there we r not going to build u one. We will take a look and try to help u improve it. second there r guides that can help u build said tank.


 

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Originally Posted by LSK View Post
Well first off go to mids and try to build u a wp/ss tank from there we r not going to build u one. We will take a look and try to help u improve it. second there r guides that can help u build said tank.

Ok more refined question then: Is it worth it to try capping Melee or S/L Defense since the character will only have 22% Defense resistance? Seems to me the Defense he has would get stripped pretty fast.

Will be posting a build later.


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Ok this was the build I finished this morning. I'm aiming for high Regen, S/L Resist, damage bonus so I can actually hurt something outside of Rage and the ability to watch my blue bar seldom move unles I get mugged by an all-Sapper spawn.

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Thanks for the help in advance.


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Ok this was the build I finished this morning. I'm aiming for high Regen, S/L Resist, damage bonus so I can actually hurt something outside of Rage and the ability to watch my blue bar seldom move unles I get mugged by an all-Sapper spawn.

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Thanks for the help in advance.
I have a WP/Stone tank who's been around for quite a while and seen more than a few respecs. What I can tell you is this: When I soft capped him to S/L/F/C/E/En, his survivability went through the roof. Yes, with low DDR you will get it debuffed by heavily debuffing enemies (tarantula Queens, Cimerorans, longbow, etc) but I've found regen debuffs and defense debuffs rarely come in strong pairs, and having both pretty much assures that you can lose one thing and still be just fine. Losing your regen to +4 x8 carnies, with no defense to help is going to hurt. a lot.

As for the build, I'm at work and so I can't see it but based on your summary I do have a few notes: Max HP >>>> more regen. Try and get as much HP out of the build as possible. 30 extra HP will do more for you than 10% more regen on a toon with high regen already.

Defense is (as mentioned above) a very good thing.

Damage bonuses are almost useless from sets. If you're happy with the extra damage, awesome. I just personally wouldn't bother as I would try to fit more HP into the build.


 

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Originally Posted by Comicsluvr View Post
Ok this was the build I finished this morning. I'm aiming for high Regen, S/L Resist, damage bonus so I can actually hurt something outside of Rage and the ability to watch my blue bar seldom move unles I get mugged by an all-Sapper spawn.

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Thanks for the help in advance.
I took a look at your build and all i can say is yikes. You have hardly any def at all for the 2 major dam in the game IE S/L. I would get rid of the ToD, and switch out the mako for Kinitic Combat for your def. Get rid of focus acc and take weave. There is a few more suggestions i would say but I am looking at this before I have to go to work. I will let you know more or some one else might.


 

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Ok...new iteration focussing on Def this time. The order of the Powers is unimportant...I just wanted to make sure I had room for them all.

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I got the S/L Def up to 31.9%


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Why did u wait so long to take other of your def? I am posting my WP/SS build to give u an idea of some stuff u might want to increase your def and also get rid of ToD neg and get you some more acc I wusally go with Mako Acc/End/Rech myself.
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Little Side Kick: Level 50 Mutation Tanker
Primary Power Set: Willpower
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Mind Over Body -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(3), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(5), RctvArm-ResDam(5)
Level 1: Jab -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(9), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9)
Level 2: High Pain Tolerance -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(11), RctvArm-ResDam(11), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Heal-I(25), Heal-I(25)
Level 4: Fast Healing -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(13), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(15)
Level 6: Haymaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(15), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(17), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 8: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(17)
Level 10: Air Superiority -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 12: Rise to the Challenge -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(19), Numna-Heal(21), Taunt-I(21)
Level 14: Fly -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(27), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(27)
Level 18: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29), LkGmblr-Def(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 20: Taunt -- Zinger-Dam%(A), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(31), Zinger-Taunt/Rchg(31), Zinger-Acc/Rchg(31), Zinger-Taunt(33), Zinger-Taunt/Rng(33)
Level 22: Knockout Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(33), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 24: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 26: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-EndRdx(36), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(36), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(36)
Level 28: Rage -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(37), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), LkGmblr-Def(39), LkGmblr-Rchg+(39)
Level 32: Strength of Will -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(40), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(40), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(42)
Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(42), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx(43), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43), FrcFbk-Rechg%(45)
Level 41: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(45)
Level 44: Fire Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Fire Ball -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Dmg(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- Run(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Flight(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A)



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