TW/FA, quick question.


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How well do you guys think this would farm compared to the lord of farming, SS/FA? I don't farm much, but I would like the option if possible. I figure that if it winds up being worse it won't be by much, due to the fact that TW is AoE Heavy (Three cones, one PBAoE).


 

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Originally Posted by DoctorWhat View Post
How well do you guys think this would farm compared to the lord of farming, SS/FA? I don't farm much, but I would like the option if possible. I figure that if it winds up being worse it won't be by much, due to the fact that TW is AoE Heavy (Three cones, one PBAoE).
Depends. I've done it. It is interesting to attempt to farm with TW. However, you always have to point in the right direction, or else your cones are just wasted endurance.If you oversaturate agro and have no room to move, then it doesn't matter. Else, pointing in the right direction is necessary, and gets old quick.


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For farming, ss/fa is still vastly superior to tw/fa. The redraw(every time you use a fa ability, you have to put your weapon away and draw it again) slows things down quite a bit, not to mention missing out on rage. TW is capable of farming I'm sure, but i would pair it with something along the lines of WP or maybe EA, something that doesnt involve a lot of clicking of defensive powers, and its still gonna be a bit slower than ss/fa, because of the absence of burn.


 

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Depends. I've done it. It is interesting to attempt to farm with TW. However, you always have to point in the right direction, or else your cones are just wasted endurance.If you oversaturate agro and have no room to move, then it doesn't matter. Else, pointing in the right direction is necessary, and gets old quick.
Maybe, but most farms I've seen gets you surrounded by mobs, so aiming a cone isn't hard.


 

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For farming, ss/fa is still vastly superior to tw/fa. The redraw(every time you use a fa ability, you have to put your weapon away and draw it again) slows things down quite a bit, not to mention missing out on rage. TW is capable of farming I'm sure, but i would pair it with something along the lines of WP or maybe EA, something that doesnt involve a lot of clicking of defensive powers, and its still gonna be a bit slower than ss/fa, because of the absence of burn.
Fair enough on the Rage and Redraw. However I'm not making it as a farmer, I plan on making one anyway, I just want the option to farm if I want the extra Inf.


 

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If Claws/FA can farm so well I have no reason to think TW can't. You'll mostly be at the aggro cap anyway.


 

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One point of note: Attacks under momentum do not need redraw. For instance, if a TW/FA used Healing Aura after Build Momentum, and then an attack while still under momentum, the attack would activate instantly and your weapon would just appear without a redraw time. So, if you manage it well, you can use TW without redrawing.

I believe that it is possible, under good conditions, for a TW/FA to outperform a SS/FA. However, the SS/FA will still be easier because it is all AoEs and has no tricky mechanics, and the SS character would probably be cheaper to build.


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One point of note: Attacks under momentum do not need redraw. For instance, if a TW/FA used Healing Aura after Build Momentum, and then an attack while still under momentum, the attack would activate instantly and your weapon would just appear without a redraw time. So, if you manage it well, you can use TW without redrawing.

I believe that it is possible, under good conditions, for a TW/FA to outperform a SS/FA. However, the SS/FA will still be easier because it is all AoEs and has no tricky mechanics, and the SS character would probably be cheaper to build.
I think that would be a fair assement. I'm not confident it could outdo SS/FA, I just think they would be comparable.


 

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I tried tw/fa/fire as a farmer as soon as tw was introduced. I spent quite a bit trying to get it on par with my ss/fa/mu, but it just wouldnt compare, speed wise. With fiery embrace, the dmg of both of the cone attacks is much better than footstomp, while whirling smash is roughly 60% of footstomps dmg(and thats just at a guess, compared to my own ff/sa, with oblits slotted in both). I expiremented with several different builds, even trying a build without burn(which was a total and complete bomb by the way). The redraw really is a killer, i know that momentum helps in some cases, but you cant have it ready every time you need to click an incarnate, a heal, or burn. If played just right, i think tw/fa could be as fast as a "slow" ss/fa, but really lagged behind once you factor in mu or pyre mastery. None of this is scientific, and i havent crunched any numbers, this is just from my personal experience, im very much looking for something that can perform as well as my ss/fa/mu in farming, because spamming footstomp is just too damn boring.