You'll get about 4.66% more to s/l assuming tough, you'll get about 3.26 more to fire, cold, psi.
except... If you have cardiac, you're most probably already capped to S/L, so you're talking about a fairly minimal benefit.
I tried these two a lot on test with an Ele/TW and it was always my impression that cardiac was significantly better than resil. This on the set that is arguably most able to benefit from the extra +res on resil, and ignore the endredux on cardiac.
Now: If you have a cardiac build that doesn't cap s/l res, but would with resil, then I could see the argument, however, I would venture the counterargument that you probably could get that extra few percent somewhere else and stay with cardiac... limiting the debate, again, to the virtue of 3.26% more fire, cold and psi.
Maybe if you're gunning really hard for psi res?
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I think I was hitting around 89.5% for S/L Resist, might have hit 90% with my slotting, I don't recall. :/|
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You'll get about 4.66% more to s/l assuming tough, you'll get about 3.26 more to fire, cold, psi.
except... If you have cardiac, you're most probably already capped to S/L, so you're talking about a fairly minimal benefit. I tried these two a lot on test with an Ele/TW and it was always my impression that cardiac was significantly better than resil. This on the set that is arguably most able to benefit from the extra +res on resil, and ignore the endredux on cardiac. Now: If you have a cardiac build that doesn't cap s/l res, but would with resil, then I could see the argument, however, I would venture the counterargument that you probably could get that extra few percent somewhere else and stay with cardiac... limiting the debate, again, to the virtue of 3.26% more fire, cold and psi. Maybe if you're gunning really hard for psi res? |
But I was liking the idea of having even more F/C/N/P Resist witht he almost softcapped S/L Defense
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The question I'd have to ask is "where is that really going to make a difference?"|
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I think I was hitting around 89.5% for S/L Resist, might have hit 90% with my slotting, I don't recall. :/
But I was liking the idea of having even more F/C/N/P Resist witht he almost softcapped S/L Defense |
Now, I'll grant that electric, with the right IOs can get enough psi res that a hair more from resil will make a meaningfull difference, but negative is quite low on that set anyway, and f/c doesn't usually make or break things.
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You do have a point. It was more for just an additional "Oooooh! Higher resists!"
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Originally Posted by Spiritchaser
The question I'd have to ask is "where is that really going to make a difference?"
Now, I'll grant that electric, with the right IOs can get enough psi res that a hair more from resil will make a meaningfull difference, but negative is quite low on that set anyway, and f/c doesn't usually make or break things. |
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Mids' has been updated with the new Alpha options (among other things), so it's easy to compare now.
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but the +resists part of them arent working :/
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Mids' has been updated with the new Alpha options (among other things), so it's easy to compare now.
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I went and verified that, then reported it in the update thread. <.<
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but the +resists part of them arent working :/
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'I don't like the look of it at all,' said the King: 'however, it may kiss my hand if it likes.'
'I'd rather not,' the Cat remarked.
'Don't be impertinent,' said the King, 'and don't look at me like that!' He got behind Alice as he spoke.
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I had no idea where their thread was. So awesome you did it!
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I went and verified that, then reported it in the update thread. <.<
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Just to note something possibly: That tanker ATIO proc is... well it's just plain awe inspiring on an electric tank.
It may have direct bearing on alpha choice or it may not, but it's certainly worth at least thinking about.
Now: The proc could be changed 4 times before making it live, and, well who knows how accessable they're going to end up being, but, yoiks...
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What's the Tanker set look like? No idea on the set bonuses or the proc.
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Just to note something possibly: That tanker ATIO proc is... well it's just plain awe inspiring on an electric tank.
It may have direct bearing on alpha choice or it may not, but it's certainly worth at least thinking about. Now: The proc could be changed 4 times before making it live, and, well who knows how accessable they're going to end up being, but, yoiks... |
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As of last night, the Proc was +6.67% res all on the superior IO (there are two versions) and it stacked up to 3 times.
Without any consideration of attack chains or where I put that IO, I ended up with 2 stacks most of the time, and 3 some of the time. EDIT I suspect If I wasn't so careless, I could get 3 most or all the time, at least as it now stands.
That puts the effective target at 70% or 77%, both of which are potentially in range for an electric tank.
It gave me hardcapped res for s/l/f/c/e/p, with solid negative, and well, about 40% toxic on the build I had which is still little more than a consolation prize, but... oh well. Too bad there are mobs that can gut/ignore defence and which do substantial toxic damage.
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I'm trying to decide between these two Alpha's for my ELA/TW Tanker, with the deciding factor being, how much more +Resist will I get out of using Resilent (+33% Resist) vs Cardiac (20%)
Is it in the range of an additional 3-5% Resists?
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