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Archery/MM Defensive Build

Another_Fan

By Another_Fan,
Posted on: 2011-12-24 07:02 in Blasters

 

Posted

So I'm pretty much new to blasters, though I've made about 6 of them and never kept one past level 25. This time I thought that if I had a build I could get excited about I might keep it long enough to have fun with. I made this build in Mids with the idea of softcapping ranged defense and using hover. I took scorpion shield to have some added defense to s/l.

I was hoping someone with more blaster experience could check out this build and let me know if I've overlooked anything.

I just realized that Mids let me take summon spiderlings but I shouldn't be able to without taking another skill in mace mastery first. I'll have to tweak that, but the rest of the build should still work.

Notes:
Ranged and Energy defenses are softcapped
Negative Energy defenses are at 35%
Smashing and Lethal defenses are at 31%
Should have no problems with End usage
42% global recharge (without hasten active)
+48% global accuracy
World of Confusion is mostly a set mule (I did this because the purple confuse set is relatively inexpensive)

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
http://www.cohplanner.com/

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Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Archery
Secondary Power Set: Mental Manipulation
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Aimed Shot -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Subdual -- Acc-I(A)
Level 2: Snap Shot -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(7)
Level 4: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 6: Blazing Arrow -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(13), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(46), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(50)
Level 8: Fistful of Arrows -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(13), Posi-Dmg/Rng(15), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(15)
Level 10: Hover -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(17), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), RedFtn-Def(19), RedFtn-EndRdx(21)
Level 12: Explosive Arrow -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(21), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(23), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(23)
Level 14: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Concentration -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 18: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 20: Drain Psyche -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 22: Weave -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(27), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFtn-Def(31), RedFtn-EndRdx(31)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(31), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(33), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), RedFtn-Def(33), RedFtn-EndRdx(34)
Level 26: Stunning Shot -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(34), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(34), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(36), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(36), Stpfy-KB%(36)
Level 28: World of Confusion -- CoPers-Conf(A), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(37), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(37), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(37), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(39), CoPers-Conf%(39)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 32: Rain of Arrows -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(40), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(40), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(42)
Level 35: Scorpion Shield -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(42), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(42), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), RedFtn-Def(43), RedFtn-EndRdx(43)
Level 38: Super Speed -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 41: Summon Spiderlings -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(45), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(45), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(46), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(46)
Level 44: Afterburner -- Flight-I(A)
Level 47: Ranged Shot -- ExecCtrt-Acc/Dmg(A), ExecCtrt-Dmg/EndRdx(48), ExecCtrt-Dmg/ActRdx(48), ExecCtrt-Dmg/Rng(48), ExecCtrt-Dmg/Rchg(50), ExecCtrt-Stun%(50)
Level 49: Aim -- RechRdx-I(A)
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Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), P'Shift-EndMod(9), P'Shift-End%(9)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run



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The simple stuff

I would take one recharge slot out of concentration and put a 5th slot in Rain of Arrows for the global recharge bonus and an increase in damage for RoA of course.

Change the Flight in afterburner to LOTG + Recharge for another recharge bonus increase.

You get about a 2 second increase to Drain Psyche, which I know you would like to get perma.

World of Confusion, I get totally why you did it. I just am not crazy about World of Confusion and how it works or sort of works sometimes. I wish you could put some other sort of AOE that would give you range cap. Unfortunately getting rid of WOC for something else really messes with your set bonuses beyond Range defense cap. Your recharge drops as well.

I agree with your S/L thoughts as your going to have to get into melee to pull it off so one purple inspiration and your just about capped and ready to Drain Psyche / ROA at melee range.

If you removed 2 slots out Aimed Shot and put them in Explosive and Fistful you would cut your recharge on Drain Psyche from 38.76 to 37.26. But your Range Defense Cap would drop down to 44.2. Your Original recharge for Drain Psyche was 40.57 just as a comparison without having to flip to MIDs..

Beyond all of that it would require a build from scratch to see what I could change. But at that point I'm just thinking modifying the DP/MM builds you see around here to fix it into Archery. Since much of the ground work has already been laid out.

1. Why Soft Cap is Important : http://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011...important.html
2. Limits: http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Limits
3. Attack Mechanics: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Attack_Mechanics
4. Rule of Five: http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Rule_o...e_Law_of_Fives

 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by plainguy View Post
Change the Flight in afterburner to LOTG + Recharge for another recharge bonus increase.
Ah, good catch, I keep forgetting that afterburner can take defense sets!

Quote:
Originally Posted by plainguy View Post
If you removed 2 slots out Aimed Shot and put them in Explosive and Fistful you would cut your recharge on Drain Psyche from 38.76 to 37.26. But your Range Defense Cap would drop down to 44.2. Your Original recharge for Drain Psyche was 40.57 just as a comparison without having to flip to MIDs..
Hmmm, 44.2 defense is still pretty good, I may go ahead and do this along with the extra slot on rain of arrows. I'll probably end up dropping Aim and picking up some skill I'll never use in mace mastery so I can still have the pets. It's not much of a loss since I'd probably almost never use Aim anyway.


 

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Ok, so for reference here's what I currently have planned:

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
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Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Archery
Secondary Power Set: Mental Manipulation
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Aimed Shot -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Subdual -- Acc-I(A)
Level 2: Snap Shot -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(7)
Level 4: Fly -- Flight-I(A)
Level 6: Blazing Arrow -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(11), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(13), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(13), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(15)
Level 8: Fistful of Arrows -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(15), Posi-Dmg/Rng(17), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(17), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 10: Hover -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(19), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(19), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(21), RedFtn-Def(21), RedFtn-EndRdx(23)
Level 12: Explosive Arrow -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(23), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(25), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(25), Posi-Dmg/Rng(50)
Level 14: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Concentration -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 20: Drain Psyche -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 22: Weave -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(29), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(29), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def(31), RedFtn-EndRdx(31)
Level 24: Maneuvers -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(33), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(33), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), RedFtn-Def(34), RedFtn-EndRdx(34)
Level 26: Stunning Shot -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(34), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(36), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(36), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(36), Stpfy-KB%(37)
Level 28: World of Confusion -- CoPers-Conf(A), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(37), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(37), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(39), CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(39), CoPers-Conf%(39)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 32: Rain of Arrows -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(40), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(42), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Dmg/Rng(50)
Level 35: Scorpion Shield -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(42), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(43), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(43), RedFtn-Def(43), RedFtn-EndRdx(45)
Level 38: Web Envelope -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Summon Spiderlings -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(45), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(45), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), ExRmnt-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(46), ExRmnt-+Res(Pets)(46)
Level 44: Afterburner -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Ranged Shot -- Mantic-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Mantic-Acc/Dmg(48), Mantic-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(48), Mantic-Dmg/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Super Speed -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
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Level 2: Swift -- Flight-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), P'Shift-EndMod(9), P'Shift-End%(9)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run



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Is there a reason you don't do this with Arch/NRG, with boost range making Arch's cone a lot better and giving you the best defense in the game... out of range defense. Enemies have a 0% chance to hit you if you are hitting them from outside their range. That's just a thought.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by NecroOmNomNomicon View Post
Is there a reason you don't do this with Arch/NRG, with boost range making Arch's cone a lot better and giving you the best defense in the game... out of range defense. Enemies have a 0% chance to hit you if you are hitting them from outside their range. That's just a thought.
No particular reason since originally I was planning on skipping a lot of the secondary and sticking with ranged attacks anyway. The only problem with switching to Nrg is that while I would get +range, which would be nice, I would also lose 10% rech, 5% ranged def, 4% damage, and 4% recovery. Also I like drain psyche better than conserve power and I'd probably use subdue occasionally where I would likely never use power thrust. Those are all minor things, but they're enough to tip the scales for how I like to play.


 

Posted

Going to be blunt you are missing must haves on that build
1. No aim
2. Subdual isn't slotted enough to be useful. Its one of the three powers you can use while mezzed. It is also your only non smash/lethal attack
3. The defense powers are overslotted to little effect
4. Not enough accuracy in drain psyche

Here is a build with minimal changes to yours.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
http://www.cohplanner.com/


Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Archery
Secondary Power Set: Mental Manipulation
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Aimed Shot

  • (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (3) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (3) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (5) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
  • (21) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
  • (21) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
Level 1: Subdual
  • (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
  • (31) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
  • (33) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (33) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (34) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 2: Snap Shot
  • (A) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (5) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (7) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
  • (23) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
  • (31) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
Level 4: Fly
  • (A) Flight Speed IO
Level 6: Blazing Arrow
  • (A) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (13) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
  • (13) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
  • (15) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
Level 8: Fistful of Arrows
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (15) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (17) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
  • (17) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
Level 10: Hover
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (19) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (19) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
Level 12: Explosive Arrow
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (23) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (25) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (25) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
  • (50) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
Level 14: Boxing
  • (A) Empty
Level 16: Concentration
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (43) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 18: Tough
  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
Level 20: Drain Psyche
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (27) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (27) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 22: Weave
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (29) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (29) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
Level 24: Maneuvers
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (31) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
  • (34) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
Level 26: Stunning Shot
  • (A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (34) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun
  • (36) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance
  • (36) Stupefy - Stun/Range
  • (36) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
  • (37) Stupefy - Chance of Knockback
Level 28: World of Confusion
  • (A) Coercive Persuasion - Confused
  • (37) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge
  • (37) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Confused/Recharge
  • (39) Coercive Persuasion - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (39) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance
  • (39) Coercive Persuasion - Contagious Confusion
Level 30: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (40) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (40) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 32: Rain of Arrows
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
  • (50) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
Level 35: Scorpion Shield
  • (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
  • (42) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (43) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
  • (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (45) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (48) Red Fortune - Endurance
Level 38: Web Envelope
  • (A) Empty
Level 41: Summon Spiderlings
  • (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (45) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
  • (45) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
  • (46) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (46) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
  • (46) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets
Level 44: Afterburner
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 47: Ranged Shot
  • (A) Sting of the Manticore - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (48) Sting of the Manticore - Accuracy/Damage
  • (48) Sting of the Manticore - Damage/Interrupt/Recharge
Level 49: Super Speed
  • (A) Celerity - +Stealth
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Level 2: Swift
  • (A) Flight Speed IO
Level 2: Health
  • (A) Miracle - +Recovery
Level 2: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO
Level 2: Stamina
  • (A) Endurance Modification IO
  • (9) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  • (9) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Defiance
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
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Originally Posted by Another_Fan View Post
Going to be blunt you are missing must haves on that build
1. No aim
2. Subdual isn't slotted enough to be useful. Its one of the three powers you can use while mezzed. It is also your only non smash/lethal attack
3. The defense powers are overslotted to little effect
4. Not enough accuracy in drain psyche
So apparently a friend of mine already had an Arch/MM blaster that was similar to what I was going for. I looked over her build and was able to tweak it to fit my playstyle (and budget) and it was actually very similar to the build you posted. However I did want to explain myself a little bit.

I skipped aim on purpose, I just wouldn't get enough use from it. To be honest I probably won't get much use out of build up either, I tend to forget about short duration buffs like that even though mathematically I know they're extremely useful.

Subdual isn't slotted because I don't plan on using it much, even when mezzed. I have more than enough recharge to spam my first two archery attacks without needing a third attack mixed in there. Also weapon redraw annoys me so I avoid it whenever possible.

Overslotting defense powers is a bad habit I picked up from my more endurance heavy characters. As a result I end up trying to squeeze as much end reduction into toggles as I can while still getting decent set bonuses. But you're absolutely right about it not being necessary here.

As for drain psyche, I'm getting more than enough accuracy from set bonuses to make up for it.

Now for an update, I've been playing this blaster off and on and got her up to 35. I did some slotting along the way and so far I can say the advice I've gotten from this board has been a huge help. This is the longest I've managed to stick to a blaster and once I got Rain of Arrows it really started to click for me. So thanks to those of you who have taken the time to help me here.