Tanker as Blaster on MoM

And yet, you quoted a fragment of a sentence, leaving off the part of the sentence that explicitly stated what the sentence was about, and replied as if that sentence were talking about something else. Here's the full sentence:
Note no mention of ranged attacks, only level shifts. It isn't an arbitrary statement: it's absolutely true you can't very well pull your weight against a +6 enemy: your own powers will only be 15% effective in that case, if you can hit at all, while a player with 3 level shifts will be at 65% effectiveness, more than four times better, not to mention it being more difficult to hit, and the AV hitting you back more often and harder. It's also absolutely on topic in a thread about whether tanks need ranged attacks to deal with Death Patch mechanics: they don't, the problem is instead easily solved with a decent build and some strategy.

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Really.

Ok then, you take a non-level shifted toon to the MoM and let's see how effective you are at melee, OR ranged.

The reason for this is, years ago, even before issue 1, the Dev's implemented the infamous 'Purple Patch'.

Here, read about it:

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Purple_Patch

So when I say fighting +5's and +6's makes you effectively useless, it isn't 'just because', it's because that's how the game works. You don't often see the effects of the purple patch these days due to auto-exemplaring, but it's still there, as far as I know. On the TPN and MoM the purple patch will crush you if you're on a lowby toon.

Although that brings up an interesting point:

Does anyone know if the level shifts effect exemplaring? My anecdotal experience on a few MoM's indicates strongly they do not, but I'm curious if anybody has checked it more formally.



All very true, which is why I recommended in this thread to go play Apex/Tin Mage TF's until you are comfortable with those mechanics.

Because if you are comfortable with the tactics to defeat the death patch mechanic, it does not matter if you have ranged attacks or not.

And you want to learn those tactics BEFORE you have to confront those mechanics against level 56 AV's.

Which are MUCH harder than 54's.

Because of the Purple Patch.

Which demands that you have a level-shifted toon to be effective.

Because that is how the Dev's made the game.

See how all this ties together? The conversation is progressing, people are addressing the opening topic and then trying to lend advice, to make things easier.

Although, come to think of it, the same 'death bombing' mechanic is also in the lowby 'Death from Below' sewer trial, against the hydra. So you could run that a few times for practice as well.

If that's true, then he was less than clear in his initial post, and in subsequent posts. I don't think anyone is disputing that what he said (and is saying in most recent post) is correct, but that there was no immediately apparent connection to the question in the OP's original post.

Mauk, I really don't think anyone is saying you're incorrect. As a matter of fact, if you had made a statement in your initial post like the one I bolded above, I don't think you'd be having this disagreement.

I said:

I rather thought that was quite clear. Apparently I was wrong.

Okies, I'm out, it's a game, go play!