You could do a lot better, Light. Especially with all that cash your flingin' around.
This build....
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Blaze Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Initial Strike -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Aegis-ResDam(11), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(34), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(36)
Level 2: Sweeping Cross -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(45), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(46), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 4: Temp Invulnerability -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(7), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 6: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Dct'dW-Heal(15), Dct'dW-Rchg(21)
Level 8: Rib Cracker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), C'ngImp-Dmg/Rchg(25), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(27)
Level 10: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 12: Boxing -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(40), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(19)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 16: Unyielding -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(17), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17)
Level 18: Spinning Strike -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Dam%(36), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 20: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(27), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 22: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(23), HO:Enzym(31)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 26: Shin Breaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Achilles-ResDeb%(39)
Level 28: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), HO:Enzym(34)
Level 30: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-Psi/Status(33), Aegis-ResDam(31)
Level 32: Crushing Uppercut -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(36), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Mako-Acc/Dmg(42), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(37)
Level 38: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(39), HO:Enzym(40)
Level 41: Spring Attack -- Erad-Acc/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(48), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(46), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 44: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Fire Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Resist Elements -- GA-3defTpProc(A)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Clrty-Stlth(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 6: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(15), RgnTis-Regen+(45)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(11), P'Shift-End%(19), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21)
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
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Should make you almost unkillable, you would have good AoE and Single target damage, Cardiac alpha will boost both your resists and end reds, greatly easing any endurance problems. You are soft-capped to all damage with one in melee range of invincibility. Only thing lacking is a proper heal, which can be attained by using Rebirth.
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Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.
I'll have to take a look at that build when I have access to Mid's Pine. I have a Street Justice/Invuln brute that could benefit from similar slotting.
I won't have the Glad Armor though, so I might have to settle for 42% defense instead.
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Originally Posted by Paragons_Light
and the Gladiator's Armor set in Unstoppable
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Alright now that I have more money I've gone back and revised my build. I took some pieces from Pine's build and tinkered with mine and splashed the cash. I've gone through and gotten the best IO set bonuses I could with the IO's I used to generate the best Damage, Recharge, and Endurance costs for each power while using the IO set bonuses to give a solid helping to an already good accuracy rate. Why Combat Readiness was left out of your build Pine was a bit puzzling though I do commend your choice of leaving out Unstoppable and adding Fire Mastery powers, I still decided to keep my Unstoppable and Body Mastery for personal enjoyment. Keep in mind I had a lot of money so the build is on the expensive side.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
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Lord of the Furies: Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow
- (A) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge
- (3) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (3) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
- (5) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge
- (5) Hecatomb - Damage
- (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance
- (7) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (7) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (11) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
- (11) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (13) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (13) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Recharge
- (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
- (15) Reactive Armor - Resistance
- (15) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge
- (9) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
- (9) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (17) Miracle - Heal
- (A) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff
- (17) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (23) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
- (23) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge
- (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
- (19) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
- (19) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
- (21) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (21) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (25) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (27) Aegis - Resistance
- (27) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
- (A) Unbounded Leap - Jumping
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
- (29) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
- (29) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (A) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
- (31) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (31) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (31) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (33) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (33) Aegis - Resistance
- (34) Impervium Armor - Resistance
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (25) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (34) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
- (34) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (36) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (36) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (43) Gladiator's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech
- (A) Shield Wall - Defense/Recharge
- (36) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance
- (37) Shield Wall - Endurance/Recharge
- (37) Shield Wall - Defense
- (37) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (39) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +3% Res (All)
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
- (42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
- (42) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (42) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
- (43) Red Fortune - Defense
- (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance
- (45) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End
- (45) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist
- (45) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
- (46) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Resist
- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
- (46) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (46) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (48) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (50) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (50) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
- (A) Empty
- (A) Run Speed IO
- (A) Miracle - +Recovery
- (39) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
- (A) Jumping IO
- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (39) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
- (40) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (40) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 2: Rest
- (A) Empty
I don't think many people read the long form exports, but even if someone wanted to they'd have a hard time reading purple on blue.
How 'bout a data chunk?
's doesn't make things plural.
You seem to think that because you have some inf to throw around by putting in expensive sets your toon is instantly godlike.
I'm on my mac but once i can get on mids i'll have a play with your build, i could barely see your last build with it being in purple, but a set of glad armour in unstoppable is a waste, so i'll have a little play.
@Effy
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Hey Paragons Light! 
I will be blunt: For the resources invested, your build is bad. Bad, bad, bad.
Now it would still play like a ****: With that much invested in it it would be hard NOT to. The ONLY important thing is that you have fun! 
However, with a few tweaks, you can save inf and get a more effective toon.
I took your build and made some tweaks. I took out unstoppable and most of the pvp sets. I got your dull pain perma and cut your hasten downtime waaaay down. I added the accolades and incarnate powers, and jacked your defense number up a ton.
See what you think:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
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Lord of the Furies: Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow -- Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(5), Hectmb-Dam%(5), T'Death-Dam%(45)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(7), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(7), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), GA-3defTpProc(37), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 2: Sweeping Cross -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(11), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(13), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(13), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(39)
Level 4: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(15), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(15), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(45)
Level 6: Dull Pain -- Mrcl-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Mrcl-Heal/Rchg(9), Mrcl-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Mrcl-Heal(17)
Level 8: Combat Readiness -- Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(A), Rec'dRet-Pcptn(17), AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(23), AdjTgt-Rchg(23)
Level 10: Rib Cracker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 12: Resist Elements -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Aegis-ResDam(27)
Level 14: Super Jump -- ULeap-Jump(A)
Level 16: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 18: Unyielding -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(29), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 20: Spinning Strike -- Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(A), Ragnrk-Knock%(31), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(31), Posi-Dam%(31), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(33)
Level 22: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Aegis-ResDam(33), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(34)
Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(25)
Level 26: Shin Breaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(36), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 28: Invincibility -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(36), HO:Cyto(37)
Level 30: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Knock%(A)
Level 32: Crushing Uppercut -- KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(42), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(43), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(43)
Level 38: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 41: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(46), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(48), LkGmblr-Rchg+(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(A), P'Shift-EndMod(50), P'Shift-End%(50)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Spiritual Core Paragon
Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(39)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(39), P'Shift-EndMod(40)
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Dude mauk I love it! Gonna toy with this build and mine, play both and see how it goes. I have the same build on Freedom and Exalted so this really works in my favor. Seeing how I have already spent the money for my build I'll be testing it out on the other toon, and for those of you criticizing on my addition of the Gladiator's Armor set, it was given to me free from a retiring SG mate so of coarse I'm going to accept it. I can't help it if I love Unstoppable *blush*
Nice build guys!
One problem I see is that it has hami's slotted, and we all know about their destiny.
I have tweaked the builds a little, and list mine below.
Regen is a little higher and build also includes psi protection.
I regularly play this toon on union (BAFs etc) and with incarnate slotting, I love every minute.
If anyone can think of some minor tweaks - please feel free.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.953
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one man and his dog revamp: Level 50 Mutation Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (3) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (7) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (17) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
- (31) Pounding Slugfest - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (46) Pounding Slugfest - Disorient Bonus: Level 30
- (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
- (5) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 50
- (13) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance: Level 50
- (43) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
- (48) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
- (3) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (9) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (17) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (31) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (5) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (15) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
- (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 50
- (7) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (15) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 50
- (50) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (9) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (11) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (25) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
- (36) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (40) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (11) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (37) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
- (13) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%): Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (46) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (19) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (19) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
- (21) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (21) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (25) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (36) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy): Level 50
- (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 50
- (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
- (23) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (23) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (37) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
- (40) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus: Level 35
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (27) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (27) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (36) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
- (39) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (43) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (29) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
- (29) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (31) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up: Level 50
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
- (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 35
- (33) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 35
- (37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 35
- (39) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (43) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 50
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (39) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
- (42) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (42) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
- (45) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
- (48) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 2: Swift
- (A) Empty
- (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50
- (33) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration: Level 30
- (34) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 40
- (A) Empty
- (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (34) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (34) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
- (A) Empty
- (A) Empty
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Before AT sets, a good option to consider for spinning strike is posi's blast supplemented with javelin volley. Extremely cheap for a pvp set, it has actually decent enhancement combinations compared to any non-purple taoe set. The quad and the dam/end/rech are uniquely good deals. Really I'd take either of those over pieces of ragnarok if I weren't slotting five pieces of ragnarok.
You really need to read up on CMA's Invuln guide.
You're pretty much ignoring the ability to softcap.
Also, if built right, Unstoppable, even for a scrappbe, becomes a niche power that isn't really needed.
Common wisdom for Invuln and resists and best slotting.
Active Resists (Toggles): 4 pieces of Reactive Armor (ignore End/Rech and End)
Passive Resists (Auto): 3 pieces of Aegis (Res, Res/End, Res/Rech
Also, yes, this build uses Hami-Os. But it's using the "correct" Hami-Os (see "Not abusing Enzymes").
Maybe for something like this:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
http://www.cohplanner.com/
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(11), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(11), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(13)
Level 2: Sweeping Cross -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Erad-%Dam(7), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 4: Dull Pain -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 6: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Combat Readiness -- AdjTgt-ToHit/Rchg(A), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(15), AdjTgt-EndRdx/Rchg(17), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx(34), AdjTgt-Rchg(50)
Level 10: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(19), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(21), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(21), GA-3defTpProc(23)
Level 12: Rib Cracker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(25), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 14: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(29), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(31), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(31), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 18: Spinning Strike -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng(34), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 20: Combat Jumping -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(36), LkGmblr-Rchg+(36)
Level 22: Weave -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(36)
Level 24: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 26: Spring Attack -- Erad-%Dam(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), M'Strk-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 28: Invincibility -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(39)
Level 30: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(40), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(40)
Level 32: Shin Breaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- DefBuff-I(A), LkGmblr-Def(43), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 38: Resist Elements -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(43), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(45)
Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(46), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 47: Crushing Uppercut -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(48), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(48), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A)
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(46), Mrcl-Rcvry+(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(17), EndMod-I(19)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
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Thanks Hyperstrike for the heads-up on the defence cap.
I assume the CMA guide you are referring to is http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=126983 by Call Me Awesome, which in turn, refers to this guide http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=121258 by Arcanaville.
This post by CMA also helps http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=133483
I must admit that I am probably among a vast majority who neither understand what a “soft cap” is, or the effect it has on our build – sadly not everyone is into “the numbers behind the words or meanings”, and the above guides helped me in understanding the point you were making. It should be noted that the forum post is “Invulnerability tankers and the Defence soft cap”, but I’m guessing the theory holds good for scrappers too.
At the risk of being proven wrong, you and Call Me Awesome are making the point that once our defence totals hit the 45% soft cap (per damage type), further slotting or placement of powers/slots with defence sets of a specific damage type is superfluous (unless you plan to slot “non-defence” enhancements), and we would be better off taking other more useful powers, or placing slots where they can be better used? Secondly, not ALL damage types need to hit the magical 45% soft cap, as we are unlikely to encounter all the damage types throughout levels 1 to 50 – Smashing/Lethal damage accounts for most (about 70%) of the damage we will ever encounter and these are the types we should aim to reach the soft cap on?
My posted build was a culmination of the builds given in this post, and provided better psi protection and regeneration.
I didn’t take Combat Readiness as the “Global speed boost” within teams (if someone had it), and the normal recharge bonuses meant most of my attacks were available when needed.
I have used Hyperstrikes build (as my 3rd build) to see how it compares to my normal build, and will report back in the future. With the uniques, I have spent over 2 billion influence (I had some of the uniques in storage) so you are looking at medium priced build (by my spending budget!!).
Thanks once again to Hyperstrike for the info on soft capping. I hope Paragons Light, myself and others can now “go forth and slap” knowing that they have finely tuned toons!
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Originally Posted by dior_union
Thanks Hyperstrike for the heads-up on the defence cap.
I assume the CMA guide you are referring to is http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=126983 by Call Me Awesome, which in turn, refers to this guide http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=121258 by Arcanaville. This post by CMA also helps http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=133483 |
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| I must admit that I am probably among a vast majority who neither understand what a “soft cap” is, or the effect it has on our build – sadly not everyone is into “the numbers behind the words or meanings”, and the above guides helped me in understanding the point you were making. It should be noted that the forum post is “Invulnerability tankers and the Defence soft cap”, but I’m guessing the theory holds good for scrappers too. |
The main "gist" of the softcap is "Keep the enemy's chance to hit you floored at 5% and you've effectively kept the amount of damage most enemy groups can inflict on you "manageable".
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| At the risk of being proven wrong, you and Call Me Awesome are making the point that once our defence totals hit the 45% soft cap (per damage type), further slotting or placement of powers/slots with defence sets of a specific damage type is superfluous (unless you plan to slot “non-defence” enhancements), and we would be better off taking other more useful powers, or placing slots where they can be better used? |
As for "more" over and above the cap being "superfluous". A small amount CAN be useful. Think about the monster stacking defense debuffs in Cimerora. You get hit, and your defense gets debuffed. So you get hit more, so you get debuffed more. So you get hit LOTS, and you're bug splat.
Cascading defense failure is a very real danger there. If you can take a couple hits and still stay capped, it provides you with a modicum of protection against cascading defense failure.
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| Secondly, not ALL damage types need to hit the magical 45% soft cap, as we are unlikely to encounter all the damage types throughout levels 1 to 50 – Smashing/Lethal damage accounts for most (about 70%) of the damage we will ever encounter and these are the types we should aim to reach the soft cap on? |
E/N is very prevalent in Incarnates content.
F/C is less prevalent.
So "going for cap" should be done roughly in those orders.
If you can get S/L to cap, and get the other two into the 32+ (1 Luck from cap) range, you're usually golden.
My main tank is capped to all simply because I'm anal about self sufficiency (which is why I overbuild for EndRedux as well).
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| My posted build was a culmination of the builds given in this post, and provided better psi protection and regeneration. |
Also you're not really getting all that much out of Psi defense. You're actually being better protected by your ranged and AoE defense.
Your general level of defense is higher, granted. But you're using Maneuvers. While, yes, it works, it's generally considered a sign of bad build planning on an Invuln.
Sure, we could rip out Spring Attack on my build, go with Maneuvers, and realize a marginally higher level of defense, but S/L is already soft-capped, E/N would barely budge upward (because it's taking away a set bonus), and F/C is already in the "good enough" range.
But then you've just bumped endurance consumption by 28% and removed an opening attack that includes KD as a form of damage mitigation.
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I have used Hyperstrikes build (as my 3rd build) to see how it compares to my normal build, and will report back in the future. With the uniques, I have spent over 2 billion influence (I had some of the uniques in storage) so you are looking at medium priced build (by my spending budget!!). Thanks once again to Hyperstrike for the info on soft capping. I hope Paragons Light, myself and others can now “go forth and slap” knowing that they have finely tuned toons! |
In normal combat you should be able to button-mash like a Brute and have everything dead before you worry about endurance. In protracted combat, you can go to Conserve Power.
I always love coming through a ridiculously tough fight with a full green bar, most of my blue bar, and incredulous "How the **** did you DO that?" looks from my teammates.
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Which lore pet would compliment this build btw?
So many to choose from these days!
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Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.
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Which lore pet would compliment this build btw?
So many to choose from these days! |
Cimerorans for max damage or WarWorks just behind that.
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Heres what I did with your build, It's on the expensive side for recharge purposes. Got 5seconds off for perma hasten and got your s/l defense hard capped with 1 enemy around.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.953
http://www.cohplanner.com/
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(48), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(43), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(48), RctvArm-ResDam(48)
Level 2: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(40), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(42), RctvArm-ResDam(42)
Level 4: Dull Pain -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(5), Numna-Heal/Rchg(5), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(34), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 6: Sweeping Cross -- Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(A), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(7), Armgdn-Dmg(39), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(39)
Level 8: Combat Readiness -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(9), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(9), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(11), GSFC-ToHit(11), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(15)
Level 10: Resist Elements -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 12: Rib Cracker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(13), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(13), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 14: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(43), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(50), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(37), RctvArm-ResDam(39)
Level 18: Tough -- RctvArm-EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(19), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(21), RctvArm-ResDam(21)
Level 20: Resist Energies -- GA-3defTpProc(A)
Level 22: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(23), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(23), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(37), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 26: Spinning Strike -- Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(A), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(27), Ragnrk-Dmg(36), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(36)
Level 28: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(29), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(34), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36)
Level 30: Shin Breaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(31), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 32: Crushing Uppercut -- Hectmb-Dmg(A), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(33), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(33), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 38: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 41: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 44: Spring Attack -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-%Dam(45), Oblit-Dmg(45), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(45), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(46), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
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Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(40)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(3), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(3)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
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Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
Your general level of defense is higher, granted. But you're using Maneuvers. While, yes, it works, it's generally considered a sign of bad build planning on an Invuln.
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...It is? By who? It certainly isn't by me.
Maneuvers is a top-notch power for an Invuln, ESPECIALLY an invuln that ever plans to team. Heck, the leadership pool is almost ALWAYS a good to excellent choice.
Stop spouting your build opinions as if they're some sort of gospel. Especially when they're freakin' bad advice.
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You really don't need Maneuvers on a Invul.
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Originally Posted by mauk2
...It is? By who? It certainly isn't by me.
Maneuvers is a top-notch power for an Invuln, ESPECIALLY an invuln that ever plans to team. Heck, the leadership pool is almost ALWAYS a good to excellent choice. Stop spouting your build opinions as if they're some sort of gospel. Especially when they're freakin' bad advice. |
OK people.
As promised, I have used Hyperstrikes suggested build and finally gotten it to level 50. I am currently in the process of incarnate slot opening, and have Alpha open and tier 1 slotted.
My observations are below, and, to pre-empt any back-biting among fellow readers/repliers, please try not to disparage other peoples suggestions etc, as thats not really what the forums are about!! If you have issues with a posters suggestions, please offer a valid suggestion / arguement in reply - as my sign-off says, we all have opinions.
Some background information:
I'm lazy, very lazy! When I enter a mish, I just toggle on everything Invuln-wise which isn't auto, together with sprint and combat jumping.
I have Conserve Power on auto.
Quote:
Sadly, from lvl 40 onwards, this toon eats end at a disturbing rate! (well IMHO anyway).|
Originally Posted by Hyperstrike
In normal combat you should be able to button-mash like a Brute and have everything dead before you worry about endurance. In protracted combat, you can go to Conserve Power. |
This may be due to my Invuln toggle mania, and, when soloing (+3 x3) I was having to half fill my insps tray with big blues. This problem isnt so apparant in a team with buffs flying around.
Similarly, unless a team-mate is supplying speed-boost, hasten doesnt quite hit the "perma" mark on the staple damage powers - by this, I mean the recharge rate of builder/finishers combos is a little slow (particularly the AOE Spinning Strike could do with being a little faster) but, its manageable.
The recharge and endurance issues obviously disappear once you open the alpha slot, but they do make soloing a bit of a pain until you hit lvl 50 - I tried soloing at +6 and had big end issues resulting in toggles dropping.
I am going to revert to my normal build (lvl35) and see if the issue arises.
Thanks to all the people who contributed to this build / thread.
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A question about Hyperstrikes build...
...do you ever notice the lack of healing enhancements in Dull Pain?
Also...you can swap out the extra three enhancements (non-eradication enhancements) in both Sweeping Cross and Spring Attack for three Cleaving Blow enhancements for an extra 2.5% e/n defense.
You can take a slot out of Conserve Power (depending on your end needs) and six slot Combat Readiness with the Gaussian set.
Another minor nitpick...the LotG in Combat Jumping would serve you better in Invincibility.
You end up with something like this...
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.954
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(11), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(11), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(13)
Level 2: Sweeping Cross -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Erad-%Dam(7), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(9), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(9), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(27)
Level 4: Dull Pain -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(13), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 6: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Combat Readiness -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(15), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(17), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(34), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(46), GSFC-Build%(50)
Level 10: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(19), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(21), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(21), GA-3defTpProc(23)
Level 12: Rib Cracker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(25), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 14: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(29), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(29), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 16: Unyielding -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(31), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(31), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)
Level 18: Spinning Strike -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng(34), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 20: Combat Jumping -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(36)
Level 22: Weave -- HO:Cyto(A), HO:Cyto(36)
Level 24: Super Jump -- Winter-ResSlow(A)
Level 26: Spring Attack -- Erad-%Dam(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), C'ngBlow-Acc/Dmg(37), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(39), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(39)
Level 28: Invincibility -- HO:Cyto(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(36), HO:Cyto(39)
Level 30: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(40), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(40)
Level 32: Shin Breaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(42), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- DefBuff-I(A), LkGmblr-Def(43), LkGmblr-Rchg+(43)
Level 38: Resist Elements -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(43), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(45)
Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(45), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 47: Crushing Uppercut -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(48), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(48), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A)
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(46), Mrcl-Rcvry+(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(17), EndMod-I(19)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Thanks vitality.
I will try this out using one of my free respecs and report back.
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Quote:
Now that was just my attempt to fix some things I saw in a previous build.|
Originally Posted by dior_union
Thanks vitality.
I will try this out using one of my free respecs and report back. |
This is my actual attempt at a build I would go for...using the same power selections:
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.954
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(3), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GA-3defTpProc(31)
Level 2: Sweeping Cross -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(7), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(31), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(45), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(46)
Level 4: Dull Pain -- Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(5), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal(45), Dct'dW-Rchg(45)
Level 6: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Combat Readiness -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(9), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(9), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(27), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(27), GSFC-Build%(29)
Level 10: Temp Invulnerability -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(11), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(11), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 12: Rib Cracker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(13), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(13), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 14: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(15), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(15), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 16: Unyielding -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(17), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(17)
Level 18: Spinning Strike -- Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx/Rng(A), Det'tn-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Det'tn-Dmg/Rchg(19), Det'tn-Dmg/Rng(21), Det'tn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23)
Level 20: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(21)
Level 22: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(34), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 24: Super Jump -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Spring Attack -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(34), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), C'ngBlow-Dmg/EndRdx(42), C'ngBlow-Dmg/Rchg(43), C'ngBlow-Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 28: Invincibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(33), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(33)
Level 30: Resist Energies -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(31), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(33)
Level 32: Shin Breaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(39), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(40), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 35: Tough Hide -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(36), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(36)
Level 38: Resist Elements -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(39), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(39)
Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42)
Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 47: Crushing Uppercut -- SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg(A), SScrappersS-Dmg/Rchg(48), SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SScrappersS-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SScrappersS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 49: Physical Perfection -- P'Shift-End%(A)
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(37), Numna-Heal(40)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(37), P'Shift-EndMod(37), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(43)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 1: Combo Level 1
Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Vitality - thanks for the build suggestion.
If you look at my original build on page 1 (one man and his dog toon), you will notice that I hadnt actually built the same as Hyperstrike (I didnt use build up (combat readiness), and took something in the Leadership pool (which caused quite a stir amongst other posters!)).
I must admit that I still have reservations about such slottings, but thats what individual builds are all about!
I still use One Man and his dog and have no issues with it, and, if I remember correctly, the healing uniques were included in that build.
What I am trying to balance up now is the differences between recovery etc, the soft caps, and my play-style.
In retrospect, ALL these builds are rock solid once they hit level 50, but what pains me a lot (and not just on this build but other AT's I run) is the automatic assumption that all builds will be blinding when they hit level 50, but that there are not many builds in the forums which use mids for "in-between" levels of 1 through 49.
For example, there are uniques which I can start to slot as low as level 10, but they don't always seem to be reflected in the forums "slot-wise". I actually respec my toons maybe twice or 3 times to both pick up early uniques, and to sell lower rated enhancements for their maximum rated level enhancements.
I accept that not all people have 6 years plus of influence to draw on as I do, and like to see a maxed out level 50 mids build online, but, for example, Hyperstirkes build has Hamis included which aren't available in the middle levels, and, this makes building an all-rounder, all level capable toon very hard to achieve.
Obviously, a quick work-around is to stock up on blues and greens, but, more interesting, would be to see a build which covers levels 1 thru 20, 21 thru 35 and 36 thru 50 for example. Loads of work for no real gain when one considers the ultimate goal is to hit 50?
I suspect at the end of the day, my foibles from 1 to 49 wont amount to much when most forum watchers want to see the final level 50 numbers, but then I ask what they will do when they join a level 25 task force with a build which has been maxed out, and most of their enhancements dont work!
A tough cooky that eh?
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Alright guys after a few days of tweaking and tinkering with my build. I've finally decided that this is my perfect build for an all-around player with a Street Justice/Invul toon. With this build I have absolutely no endurance problems, sufficient damage, accuracy, and recharge rates. An actual non-purchased travel power. Solid defense for both PvE and PvP so whatever you're up for you are more than capable of doing. I've run a multitude of Incarnate Trails leading the pack and have held my own without dying. And to make everything sweeter you don't have to splash a ton of cash! Overall I spent about 1bil in IO's before spoiling myself and splashing the cash on the more extravagant IO's. With the 2 Ragnarok's, Gladiator's Strike, and the Gladiator's Armor set in Unstoppable the build costs roughly 3.9bil depending on how gentle Wentworth is going.
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.952
http://www.cohplanner.com/
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Lord of the Furies: Level 50 Natural Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Street Justice
Secondary Power Set: Invulnerability
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Heavy Blow
- (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
- (3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
- (3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
- (5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (5) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
Level 1: Resist Physical Damage- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
- (7) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (7) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
Level 2: Sweeping Cross- (A) Obliteration - Damage
- (11) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (11) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (13) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage
- (13) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 4: Temp Invulnerability- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (15) Aegis - Resistance
- (15) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
Level 6: Dull Pain- (A) Miracle - Endurance/Recharge
- (9) Miracle - Heal/Recharge
- (9) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
- (17) Miracle - Heal
Level 8: Combat Readiness- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
- (17) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
- (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
- (23) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
Level 10: Rib Cracker- (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
- (19) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
- (19) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
- (21) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
- (21) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 12: Resist Elements- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (25) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (27) Aegis - Resistance
- (27) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
Level 14: Super Jump- (A) Unbounded Leap - Jumping
Level 16: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 18: Unyielding- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
- (29) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
- (29) Titanium Coating - Resistance
Level 20: Spinning Strike- (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
- (31) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
- (31) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
- (31) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (33) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
Level 22: Resist Energies- (A) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance
- (33) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
- (34) Aegis - Resistance
Level 24: Combat Jumping- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (25) Kismet - Accuracy +6%
Level 26: Shin Breaker- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (34) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
- (34) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
- (36) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
- (36) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (43) Gladiator's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/End/Rech
Level 28: Invincibility- (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
- (36) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
- (37) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
- (37) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
- (37) Red Fortune - Defense
- (39) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
Level 30: Boxing- (A) Empty
Level 32: Crushing Uppercut- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage
- (40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance
- (42) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge
- (42) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
- (42) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 35: Tough Hide- (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
- (43) Red Fortune - Defense
- (43) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 38: Unstoppable- (A) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance
- (45) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End
- (45) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist
- (45) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
- (46) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Resist
Level 41: Tough- (A) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance
- (46) Titanium Coating - Resistance
- (46) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
- (48) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
Level 44: Weave- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
- (48) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
- (50) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 47: Conserve Power- (A) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 49: Physical Perfection- (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
- (50) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (50) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
------------Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Critical HitLevel 1: Sprint
- (A) Empty
Level 2: Swift- (A) Run Speed IO
Level 2: Health- (A) Miracle - +Recovery
- (39) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 2: Hurdle- (A) Jumping IO
Level 2: Stamina- (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
- (39) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge
- (40) Performance Shifter - EndMod
- (40) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy
Level 1: Combo Level 1Level 1: Combo Level 2
Level 1: Combo Level 3
Level 2: Rest