Should we abolish evil?


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Originally Posted by RemusShepherd View Post
(All of the above, of course, are my opinions and my definitions. I have studied insanity a lot because I write novels about insane people, but I am not an accredited authority on the subject.)
Color me intrigued.

Have you any book recommendations?


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You're also making a distinction about choice. You think some people know the laws but break them anyway, and some people have empathy but kill anyway. I don't care about that distinction. Anyone who has empathy but kills for fun is going to numb their empathy away in short order. A psychopath doesn't display empathy; whether they might once have had the capability for it doesn't matter.
I think the distinction is important.

Jason Voorhees, for example, presumably has massive brain damage. He may be medically incapable of having a guilt/hesitation reflex, and he may be unable to comprehend that killing people is wrong or bad. If that is indeed a curable medical condition, it should be cured, depending on cost and practicality.

Movie!Magneto, on the other hand, is presumably medically sane. He intends nothing but good for society, usually. He is shown to have a guilt/hesitation reflex, and definitely understands the extent to which his actions are socially unacceptable. His choices are made out of logic (he has resources unavailable to most people), and his will to do what he feels needs to be done. He is incurable in a medical sense. To change his actions, you would either have to inflict a medical condition or change his circumstances (or at least his perspective).

Note that I'm not saying his decision to murder every baseline human on the planet was correct, simply that it wasn't the result of a curable medical condition.

Haven't seen First Class, by the way.


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Originally Posted by Kitsune9tails View Post
Color me intrigued.

Have you any book recommendations?
Start with the DSM. It's instructive to read earlier versions of the DSM so that you can see how the terminology was developed. But stick to the current definitions to avoid confusion.

My specialty is in sexual perversions; I can give you a list of books dealing with that in private messages if you wish. You're more interested in psychopathy and sociopathy, and all I can tell you is that "Without Conscience" is supposed to be very good (I've read excerpts) and there's a new book called "The Psycopath Test" that I haven't gotten yet. Aside from that I've done general research about the nature of mental deviancy and some studies of specific serial killers.


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I watched an interesting doco recently about this and 1 of the researchers discovered he had the sociopath genes . His kids said I knew it!

He explained that he had an ordinary upbringing and that just having the genes is not enough, environment still plays an important factor in whether you will become a criminal.


 

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start with the dsm.
dsm?


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dsm?
Sorry, it was mentioned earlier in the thread. The "Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders" is the bible for psychologists. Currently in its fourth edition, although a fifth is due out next year.

The DSM describes symptoms of every known mental problem in human beings, or at least as many as they could manage to fit into the book. It also puts them into rough classifications and offers treatment guidelines. Note that its terminology may be confusing to the layman; Sociopathy is a subset of 'Antisocial personality disorder', and I forget whether they've relabeled psychopathy or not.


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