Level 50 IO Set Slotting


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Hi i am a returning vet, and i remember very little about the game. i was wondering is their a generic guide that explains the nuances of slotting a character up with IO sets at 50.


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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
You bet there is.

But I'd like to mention that it's well worth your while to start using sets before level 50. I start fitting things around level 30.
Let me second this, IO sets can, if used intelligently, make a vast difference in a character's ability. That being the case, and with all of the sets other than purples being available by 30, indeed with many good ones topping out at 35 or below why not start getting the benefits while you're still leveling the character?

I did a comparison once on slotting an Invuln tanker with level 40 (the cap for that set) Reactive Armor IO's and with level 25. Going from level 40 IO's down to level 25's I lost a whopping 2% resistance... hardly anything to worry about. Another benefit is that the below-max level IO's are frequently a small fraction of the price of the max level ones. In the case of the aforementioned Reactive Armor IO's the price tag for the 25-35 range was literally 10% that of the level 40 ones.

Bottom line, don't worry about slotting level 25 or higher, in most cases you aren't loosing enough to matter. I always start working towards an IO build about the time a character gets to 27; by the time I'm 35 I've usually gotten most of the build in place.


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Seconding what others have said, if you are level 50 and newly-returned to the game probably the *last* thing you would want to do is buy all your IOs @ level 50. The crafting costs of level 50s vs level 49s (or really anything from level 41-49) is a lot more than the extra enhancement value. [Needless to say, if you want to IO out a newly returned level 50, you want to craft stuff yourself]. Here's a quick and dirty IOing guide:

1.) Some powers only take one type of IO and don't take sets. Buy recipes and craft stuff for these powers @level 50. There are badges for memorizing level 45-50 recipes and you get +1 recipe slot for earning them. I find it worthwhile.

2.) You can earn hero merits (villian merits redside) for doing the Signature Story Arc (1 the first time, and 1 per week afterwards for a total of 2 the first week you do it per character). You can also gain hero merits for doing ten tip missions (5 per day) and then running an alignment mission. The first alignment mission gives 50 regular merits, each subsequent one gives 1 hero merit. This can be a solid way to get expensive recipes on a budget; if you are like many characters you have stamina 3 slotted. 2 level 50 end mod IOs plus a Performance Shifter +end proc (I like level 21 because the salvage is less expensive and level makes no difference) is better than 3 level 50 IOs. If endurance is at all an issue, you could also slot Miracle +recovery in Health (and eventually Numina's +regen/recovery). With a decent amount of attention, you could have all 3 of those within 2 weeks (2 hero merits from SSA, run 10 tips 50 merits, run ten tips 1 hero merit, run SSA a week later, do tips second week).

Depending on your character, you can get some nice bonuses this way. LOTG +7.5% recharge global bonus IOs are expensive, but they are only 2 hero merits. Do you have alts? They can help earn hero merits for you.

3.) The incarnate system gives you extra abilities. You can unlock the alpha slot by running Mender Ramiel's arc in the O-zone. You can gain incarnate components by running various level 50 content. If you get your Alpha to Tier 3, you get a level shift which will dramatically increase your power @ level 50. You can get deeper into the weeds than your Alpha slot, but this will be a huge bang for buck. Regardless of the other effects of the Alpha enhancement, you'll be level 51. That's bigtime.

4.) You can use set IOs as mini-HOs by "frankenslotting" them. Ignore the set bonuses, buy cheap recipes that give you the enhancement value you desire and craft them. By frankenslotting, you can effectively 7, 8, or even *9* slot powers. This works really well for controllers; 4 acc/hold/rech IOs is essentially 6 SOs worth of enhancement value.

5.) You can also slot some solid sets that give decent bonuses. You might pay a little more, but if you can pick up some +rech, + hp, +end/rec, +acc without breaking the bank, why not? Thunderstrike and Crushing Impact are the two sets that I like a lot. If you aren't picky about what level you get, and you are willing to leave bids out for a week or so over several levels, you can pick up these recipes under 500k. There are some relatively cheap control sets that give good bonuses.

6.) Some IOs work the same no matter what their level. Other IOs work as set bonuses so generally the lower the IO, the better. Here's a list of them :

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Table_of_Special_IOs

7.) Finally, don't forget your accolade powers. Some of them (in particular the +hp and +end ones) are very useful:

http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Hero_Accolade_Powers

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I also want to point out something obvious but for some reason completely eludes many people.

A lot of the "best" IO sets cap out at level 30 or 35 or 40. If you're waiting until 50 to slot one, I have to ask... why?

I meet a ton of people who don't do IOs until 50. they say "I run on SOs until 50 then I make my final build." Then they slot 4 sets of Kinetic Combat (max level 35) and the Miracle Unique (max level 40). Or Basilisk (max level 30). Or the Steadfast Protection Unique (max level 30).

Paying for, and dealing with the hassle of 15 levels worth of SOs for 20+ slots is really silly.

But people do it all the time.

If it makes them happy, great it's a small inf sink. Still it's silly.


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Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade View Post
I also want to point out something obvious but for some reason completely eludes many people.

A lot of the "best" IO sets cap out at level 30 or 35 or 40. If you're waiting until 50 to slot one, I have to ask... why?
Well, I can think of a couple of reasons. Some of those sets (like Kinetic Combat) are quite expensive, so if people aren't doing many tips or TFs while leveling (and aren't playing the market) then they may need the vastly higher earning power of a level 50 character to afford them. Also, they may not want to invest that much inf in a character until they're sure they are going to stick with him/her.

And of course, if they level up in AE it may take a lot longer to fill the bids on the IOs than it does to get to 50...


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Originally Posted by StrykerX View Post
Well, I can think of a couple of reasons. Some of those sets (like Kinetic Combat) are quite expensive, so if people aren't doing many tips or TFs while leveling (and aren't playing the market) then they may need the vastly higher earning power of a level 50 character to afford them. Also, they may not want to invest that much inf in a character until they're sure they are going to stick with him/her.

And of course, if they level up in AE it may take a lot longer to fill the bids on the IOs than it does to get to 50...
I get most of mine from AE ticket rolls. I think I have 18 or so kinetic combat acc/dams banked. I should probably sell some of those hehe. There's a few pieces here and there that you're right, are much less likely to turn up and that if the person isn't doing TFs or story arcs or TFs they won't get via rolls or straight purchases.

But in my experience the people who say they wait to 50 to IO, also say they have the money for the build. They just don't use it before then. Some snobbery about level 50 IOs vs lower level IOs is also usually given as a reason. then they post a build with the IOs I mentioned.


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