Night Fall


ClawsandEffect

 

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Meh, just reactivated my EU account and been working on a new build for my beloved DM/DA. I want to keep Darkness Mastery for concept reasons, so decided to go for Dark Blast because can't stand Night Fall, long animation, narrow cone, long recharge and pitiable damage.

I personally think Night Fall would be far more useful in Soul Mastery for Brutes because of the Fury boost to DoT while Scrappers would benefit way more from Dark Obliteration.

Anyway, do you people think this change would be positive or would it be a game breaker?


 

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Originally Posted by Scharrode View Post
Meh, just reactivated my EU account and been working on a new build for my beloved DM/DA. I want to keep Darkness Mastery for concept reasons, so decided to go for Dark Blast because can't stand Night Fall, long animation, narrow cone, long recharge and pitiable damage.

I personally think Night Fall would be far more useful in Soul Mastery for Brutes because of the Fury boost to DoT while Scrappers would benefit way more from Dark Obliteration.

Anyway, do you people think this change would be positive or would it be a game breaker?
6 of one, half dozen of the other.

You'd probably end up having to swap the whole set, instead of cherry picking powers. That would mean brutes would have to lose Gloom (another DoT power).....I would not suggest being the one to tell the brutes that. The resulting SMASH would be a terrible thing to behold.

I would also not like to tell the Regen scrappers they don't get to have Shadow Meld anymore.


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Does Night Fall crit? I love seeing it Scourge on every tick on my Corruptors. More satisfying somehow.


 

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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect View Post
You'd probably end up having to swap the whole set, instead of cherry picking powers.
Why?


 

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Originally Posted by Supernumiphone View Post
Does Night Fall crit? I love seeing it Scourge on every tick on my Corruptors. More satisfying somehow.
I think it does, never checked tbh.-


 

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Originally Posted by Scharrode View Post
Why?
I do believe in any case the whole damage scale would have to be changed for each power to keep it 'balanced'.



Your character does not have capped defense. Depending on your AT the cap is between 175% - 225%. Your defense is not teal in the combat window, it can go higher. STOP SAYING IT IS CAPPED! The correct term is Soft Cap.
I enjoy playing in Mids. I specialize in Melee Characters, other AT's usually bore me.

 

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Why?
Do we get to cherry pick powers anywhere else? Not last time I checked.

It'd most likely be a case of take the powers as a set, or not at all. Dark Obliteration probably would be better for scrappers. Hell, anything that isn't a cone would be better for any melee AT.

The most we'd be likely to get would be a choice of which Soul Mastery we take. So, I suppose it would depend on how willing you are to give up Shadow Meld for an AoE.

Night Fall wouldn't be any better on brutes either. It's a cone, so the same problem scrappers have would apply.


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We don't get to cherry pick anything... or swapping any whole set for that matter, still can't see your point, see, it wasn't a request to change them, just thought they'd be more useful if re-allocated and wanted to know other opinions.

Now, saying the change would benefit scrappers but brutes would get the short stick with the change by being a cone makes sense, it's the kind of comments I was looking for, so thanks.-


 

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This is precisely why my DM/DA abandoned Darkness Mastery. Nigh Fall is simply broken. Soul Mastery for Scrappers is useless. Had we gotten a Soul Mastery version with Dark Obliteration I would have been very happy.

I switched to Blaze Mastery for Fire Ball. I hated giving up on the full Dark concept, but I'm hoping we can customize Ancillary Pool powers at some point. For me, play style trumps concept.


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Even if night fall's AT mod were fixed, it would still be an amazingly poor power for scrappers. Currently it's more than five times weaker than the other two twenty degree scrapper cones by either straight up damage or DPA. If they were to triple that you'd still have to be insane to use it. Simply removing it from the set and replacing it with tenebrous tentacles, and then replacing tenebrous tentacles with dark obliteration as the tier 5, might upset the current users of night fall for a while, but I bet he'd get over it.