Cold Dom/Ice Blast build


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Hi there,
I'm sort of new to the making of IO builds and was wondering if anyone had any ideas/suggestions for making a Cold/Ice defender. Some rules would be needed in the build. I would need fly(character theme) and no purple recipes used. Does anyone have any idea on how to do this? Ive been looking on the boards for ideas and it seems recharge is the most important thing on earth for this power combo. Any ideas from a "pro" would be awesome.
Thanks!


 

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Recharge is indeed important, but not at the expense of personal defense. You can have both, I do for my Cold/Ice.


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This is what Im toying with at the moment:


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Cold Flurry: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Ice Blast
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Power Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Infrigidate

  • (A) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff
  • (3) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Defense Debuff
  • (37) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (40) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
  • (40) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (42) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage
Level 1: Ice Bolt
  • (A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
  • (3) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
  • (43) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
  • (46) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (50) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
Level 2: Ice Shield
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
Level 4: Ice Blast
  • (A) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
  • (33) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
  • (42) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
  • (43) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
  • (46) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
Level 6: Hover
  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  • (7) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (7) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (9) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 8: Glacial Shield
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (43) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 10: Snow Storm
  • (A) Tempered Readiness - Endurance/Recharge/Slow
  • (31) Tempered Readiness - Accuracy/Endurance
Level 12: Arctic Fog
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (13) Red Fortune - Endurance
  • (13) Red Fortune - Defense
  • (15) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
  • (17) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (17) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
Level 14: Fly
  • (A) Freebird - Endurance
  • (15) Freebird - FlySpeed
Level 16: Maneuvers
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
  • (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (34) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 18: Benumb
  • (A) Accuracy IO
  • (19) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (19) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (25) Accuracy IO
Level 20: Ice Storm
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (21) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (21) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
  • (23) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (23) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
Level 22: Tactics
  • (A) Adjusted Targeting - Endurance/Recharge
  • (37) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance
  • (37) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge
Level 24: Aim
  • (A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge
  • (25) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
Level 26: Sleet
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (27) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
  • (27) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (29) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
  • (29) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 28: Bitter Ice Blast
  • (A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage
  • (33) Devastation - Chance of Hold
  • (33) Devastation - Damage/Recharge
  • (34) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 30: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (31) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (31) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 32: Heat Loss
  • (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Recharge
  • (46) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
Level 35: Bitter Freeze Ray
  • (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Chance for Recharge Slow
  • (36) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold
  • (36) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
  • (36) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
Level 38: Blizzard
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (39) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
  • (39) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
  • (39) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range
Level 41: Power Build Up
  • (A) Adjusted Targeting - Recharge
  • (42) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Recharge
Level 44: Force of Nature
  • (A) Aegis - Psionic/Status Resistance
Level 47: Total Focus
  • (A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
  • (48) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun
  • (48) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (48) Stupefy - Stun/Range
  • (50) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance
Level 49: Assault
  • (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  • (50) Endurance Reduction IO
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
  • (A) Flight Speed IO
Level 2: Health
  • (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  • (5) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (9) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration
  • (11) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
Level 2: Hurdle
  • (A) Jumping IO
Level 2: Stamina
  • (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod
  • (5) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance
  • (11) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy




Anywhere I can improve or areas I should change?
Thanks


 

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These are "first impressions" comments, not really a thorough review...


You built up some defense but not a lot. That's perfectly fine, but Cold does offer a baseline amount of def that you can build up impressive range and/or s/l/e with Scorpion Shield.

On to specific items:

1) You've exceed the "Rule of 5" a few times, most notably for the 6.25% bonuses. Swap out the Stupefy for Crushing Impact and that's win-win, you get more recharge and a high damage power does more damage.

2) You're missing PVE invisibility by not taking one of either Super Speed or slotting a stealth io. Arctic Fog will give you Stealth, but that's really not good enough when trying to get by mobs, especially in tight hallways. Throw it into Sprint is fine, or Fly

3) Minor point (very minor) the Karma -kb is very very cheap. Using it instead of Zephyr will save about 10M. Not a big deal by any means and for most non-newbies 10M is chump change. Still the bargain hunter in me couldn't resist pointing this out.

Another option - slot the Steadfast -kb and the 3% Def into one of your 2 ally shields, which can take resist sets.

4) I know Bitter Freeze Ray does some decent damage, but as a hold power, Freeze Ray is much better. It's much faster activation time is pretty significant for its usefulness (1 second vs 2.5)

5) I'd like to see more recharge in HL, at least use all the recharge available in a set, meaning an Acc/Rch.

6) Also, with respect to bargains - the Regen Tissue unique doesn't do much for a Defender with low base HP.

7) The Winter's Gift unique is SWEET on a Cold. The -slow resist stacks with Arctig Fog so you run over caltrops as if you have sb on you.

Anyway, if I had to prioritize, I'd say 1) and 2) are the items you really need to address. Everything is just something to consider.


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Below is what I use. Highly effective and not too terribly bad on the wallet...

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I like that build Streetlight! I think I'm gonna steal it and use it on my newly lvl 50 Cold/Ice! Maybe it will get me to want to play it him more.


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When I look at streetlight's build I see he is boosting the recharge bonus so he doesn't have to slot so much recharge in sleet and heat loss. That looks fine. I just choke a bit on six slotted health. I noodled a bit in mids, if I take two slots from health and put them in arctic fog, I get the cold, fire, and energry resistance up to 34%, 34%, and 30% in an AoE aura which I would prefer on a team. If you moved a third slot over to arctic fog, you could slot for some psi/status resistance with an Aegis unique.


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Originally Posted by Psylenz View Post
When I look at streetlight's build I see he is boosting the recharge bonus so he doesn't have to slot so much recharge in sleet and heat loss. That looks fine. I just choke a bit on six slotted health. I noodled a bit in mids, if I take two slots from health and put them in arctic fog, I get the cold, fire, and energry resistance up to 34%, 34%, and 30% in an AoE aura which I would prefer on a team. If you moved a third slot over to arctic fog, you could slot for some psi/status resistance with an Aegis unique.
I 6-slotted health to softcap ranged defense without having to throw another 2B+ inf at the build. With a glad armor proc and a tiny set bonus or slotting bonus from anywhere else, you could achieve the same results. Drop Health down to the Numina & Miracle procs and you could shuffle the remaining three slots around as needed (one of the four would be used for the glad armor). Like so...

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Fair warning, if you don't keep Heat Loss rolling (or go with Ageless Destiny), either of these can be endurance-heavy. I generally keep a column of blues around, just in case.


 

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This is what i use on my cold/ice defender, it works fairly well at 50, but i still have to twink it for exemplar down :P Anyway Im happy with him

Hope it helps you

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Coldstatic: Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Cold Domination
Secondary Power Set: Ice Blast
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ice Shield -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(25)
Level 1: Ice Bolt -- Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Decim-Acc/Dmg(3), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(5), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5)
Level 2: Ice Blast -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(27), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29)
Level 4: Frost Breath -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(23), Posi-Dmg/Rng(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46)
Level 6: Glacial Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(36)
Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9), RechRdx-I(9)
Level 10: Hover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(11), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(19), Zephyr-ResKB(21)
Level 12: Arctic Fog -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(13), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(13), RedFtn-EndRdx(15), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(15), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(40)
Level 14: Boxing -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(17), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(36), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(40), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(42), Stpfy-KB%(42)
Level 16: Freeze Ray -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(17), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(21), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34)
Level 18: Benumb -- Acc-I(A), RechRdx-I(19), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 20: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 22: Ice Storm -- TmpRdns-Acc/Slow(A), TmpRdns-Dmg/Slow(23), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(31), TmpRdns-Rng/Slow(31), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(33), TmpRdns-Acc/Dmg/Slow(50)
Level 24: Weave -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(25), RedFtn-Def(33), RedFtn-EndRdx(43), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(45), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 26: Sleet -- Achilles-ResDeb%(A), LdyGrey-%Dam(27), ImpSwft-Dam%(34)
Level 28: Bitter Ice Blast -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(37), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(37), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 30: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(31), LkGmblr-Def(42)
Level 32: Heat Loss -- P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(34), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(43), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(45), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(46)
Level 35: Infrigidate -- Acc-I(A)
Level 38: Blizzard -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(39), Posi-Dmg/Rng(40)
Level 41: Web Envelope -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(A), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob(50), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx(48), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng(48), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(48)
Level 44: Scorpion Shield -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Fly -- Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(A), Zephyr-ResKB(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(11)

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