Thugs/Storm ?s


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Rolling a new Thugs/storm MM and it brought up a few questions, so I dont know if I should have posted these here, or the Player Questions thread since it has some other types of things in here too.

1. Soulbound Allegiance Chance for Build Up: Will the effects go to me or the pet?

2. Similar to the first question, if I slot a psuedo pet power like tornado with something like Call to Arms/Exp Reinforcement will just those powers benefit from the res/def bonus or will my core pets as well?

3. When it comes to hurricane I see you can put the Dark Watcher's -rch proc or the F.Feedback +rch proc in there. In MiDs the -rch proc is hurting me will it happen like that in game?

4. O2 Boost. I am duoing with my brother who has a Brute so i was wondering if O2 would be worth taking for the end drain res and the added perception.

5. Freezing Rain and Lightning Storm Slotting. Since there are so many options to slotting these two powers I could use some advice here. I have made a Storm before and I know that LS can hit multiple enemies so maybe a Devastation hold proc? For FR an Achilles, would the -res proc and a seperate -res so total -50%?

Also, any advice I would appreciate. This is an exclusive Duoing toon so I won't be soloing much. My brother is rolling a Clw/Fire Brute as this toons partner. thanks a lot guys.


 

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1. ) - Procs fire on the pet. I haven't tried Soulbound Allegiance specifically, but the other procs I've tried always fired on the pet instead of me.

2. ) - The +Def and +Res procs work on all your pets if you slot them to one pet, but only when they're standing close to you.

3. ) - I'm not sure about that one, but probably the -Rech doesn't count against you.

A similar thing happens if you slot def debuff to Enforcers. It will show up in the window as though the def debuff were also impacting his Maneuvers aura, but when you look at the numbers on the henchmen that are being affected by that aura, it's clear that it isn't.

4. ) - Brute friend or not brute friend, you'll want 02 boost in order to keep your own henchmen alive. The End drain protection is nice, but the really awesome part of that power is the stun protection.

Get that power up past level 30, and when an ally falls in battle and uses a wake to get up, the 02 boost will eliminate the stun effect from the wake so they can immediately start moving freely. I'm sure your brute friend will appreciate that too, if he's like most brutes and dies a lot.


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5. Freezing Rain and Lightning Storm Slotting. Since there are so many options to slotting these two powers I could use some advice here. I have made a Storm before and I know that LS can hit multiple enemies so maybe a Devastation hold proc? For FR an Achilles, would the -res proc and a seperate -res so total -50%?
Both of those sound good. Yeah the Achilles should definitely stack with the basic -30%, but only every 5th enemy will actually be affected by it, so I don't really see the point in wasting a slot to get it.

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Also, any advice I would appreciate. This is an exclusive Duoing toon so I won't be soloing much. My brother is rolling a Clw/Fire Brute as this toons partner. thanks a lot guys.
One thing I've always noticed about freezing rain is that the enemies like to walk out of the area. So, if you can fit it, it's a good idea to take Snow Storm as well.

Also, Thugs are very sensitive to location. If they're standing near both enforcers at level 50, and you slot a couple of Defense IO's to Enforcers, they can easily get up to 25% defense from just that. However they have to be standing inside the Enforcers' aura to get that bonus. So, you should do everything you can to keep them from spreading out.


 

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1: The pet gets the Build-Up effect.

2: They work for everything, which is why getting the recharge intensive pet globals is a good investment if you can slot them.

3: That's a good question, but I took the procs out of Hurricane. The pushback and repel stuff means that applying it and keeping it on enemies is a pain in the neck. It's your call, however.

4: It's useful as a heal to patch up your goons after they get wrecked because they're idiots. The endurance drain reduction is also useful for those situations where you need it. Which isn't often, but when you need it it's a lifesaver. The +perception...it's okay, but I'd rather run Leadership toggles.

5: I have my Freezing Rain slotted for maximum recharge and endurance. I didn't put a proc in it, but then, I had that proc in my Soldiers (I'm a merc/storm). Achilles Heel can't stack with itself, so I'd put it in your Enforcers, but sticking one in Freezing Rain is also good. Although this doesn't answer your question on FR, which is "yes, they stack for -50% resist." As for Lightning Storm, I have mine frankenslotted for max damage and recharge, plus an endurance, and also the Force Feedback chance for damage proc because it can take Knockback. Devastation is perfectly viable, but the reason I didn't bother is because I have no holds to stack with it, and anything that Devastation can hold will be dead soon enough anyway.


 

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Well thanks a lot. I am picking up O2 now and keeping Snow Storm. LS however I do not know how I will slot that. Im getting an aoe immob with the Grav Purple Set which has a hold proc anyway so it would stack with LS if I decide to Devastation proc it. I am also getting a true hold as well. I have also thought about putting some -end in LS. However I do no know if it would be worth it since I have no other -end powers. I kind of see myself using Tornado in tandem with LS against big bosses like EBs/AVs mainly, at least until I get my AoE Immob.


 

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The build up Proc has a chance to fire on you when you summon the Pet power its in, then every time the pet uses an attack. It can proc for multiple pets within the same power at the same time. And seems to stack on one pet sometimes.

I.e my tier 1 pets have had, between them, a perma build up affect for about 30 seconds before, whereby one would get it, then the other, then the firsts may drop while the third gets one etc etc.


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The build up Proc has a chance to fire on you when you summon the Pet power its in, then every time the pet uses an attack. It can proc for multiple pets within the same power at the same time. And seems to stack on one pet sometimes.

I.e my tier 1 pets have had, between them, a perma build up affect for about 30 seconds before, whereby one would get it, then the other, then the firsts may drop while the third gets one etc etc.
Wow I was going to put this into my Bruiser but now maybe the Enforcers? Who knows? Ill prolly leave it in Bruiser though.