Detonator


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Currently got a Robotics / Traps leveling up.

Just wondering what the actions of your pet are when you have something different as a primary.

For example, zombies and robots blow instantly, what do pets with a brain of their own do when you trigger the detonator?


 

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mercs and ninjas try to place the detonator dont know what the others do


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Originally Posted by BigBoss Eyepatch View Post
For example, zombies and robots blow instantly, what do pets with a brain of their own do when you trigger the detonator?
Basically mindless pets (Bots, Demons and Zombies) blow up instantly. Sentient pets (Mercs, Ninjas and Thugs) place the bomb and then futilely try to run away.

Interestingly the way in which the power works is significantly different for the two types. The mindless type is an attack from the henchman while the sentient type places a pseudo-pet. This has significant ramifications for the damage done.


 

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Which type does the most damage then? Im guessing the mindless ones!


 

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Originally Posted by BigBoss Eyepatch View Post
Which type does the most damage then? Im guessing the mindless ones!
I'm afraid I don't remember. If you do some searches int he MM forum you might be able to find the older threads on the topic.


 

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Originally Posted by BigBoss Eyepatch View Post
Which type does the most damage then? Im guessing the mindless ones!
IIRC, they do the least amount, because it uses their level for the damage calculations..

So if you use it on a Tier1 bot, it will do a lot less damage.. (as they will be -2 levels to you)

Assault Bot would do equal-level damage, but who would want to do that?


 

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Originally Posted by Primantiss View Post
IIRC, they do the least amount, because it uses their level for the damage calculations..

So if you use it on a Tier1 bot, it will do a lot less damage.. (as they will be -2 levels to you)

Assault Bot would do equal-level damage, but who would want to do that?
Ok, I found the old thread on the subject:
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=248962

Someone in the thread did some testing and found that for human henchmen Detonator did the same amount of damage regardless of the pet used (although he tested against a very low level minions so it could have been lost in the noise). Conversely my testing using Robots showed that for them at least Detonator damage dropped a LOT when used on low tier pets since they apparently got lower base damage (after accounting for the effects of the purple patch and enhancements). the human henchmen also seemed to get a higher base damage than non-human (but again see my concern regarding the method used to test human henchmen).


 

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Originally Posted by Primantiss View Post
Assault Bot would do equal-level damage, but who would want to do that?
Oh I would.

Strategic Sacrifices and all that.


 

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Originally Posted by Primantiss View Post
Assault Bot would do equal-level damage, but who would want to do that?
He's down to 10% HP, his replacement is recharged, and Marauder is in his face, why the heck not?


 

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Originally Posted by Seschat View Post
He's down to 10% HP, his replacement is recharged, and Marauder is in his face, why the heck not?
Wait, you're fighting Marauder, and your henchman has 10% health? How'd you pull that off. Fighting BaB I found that if a pet had less then 30% health, the EB is gonna kill it.


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Really for me, Detonator is going to be a last resort ditch effort type power. If I see one of my robots about to fall, and my Repair isn't ready, you can bet your bum he's gonna get blown up in their faces!