Need some expert eyes- Tri-Form Build
anyone?
Based on the criteria you gave, this looks like a workable (albeit expensive) build.
1. Live in Nova - Use human to mire/eclipse/stygian (launching pad really) |
2. Have Perma eclipse/hasten |
3. Have as much ranged defense as practical |
4. Have as many pets out as possible |
5. Nasty Damage output |
You might consider the Musculature Core Paragon alpha for more damage versus the Spiritual Core Paragon alpha for more rechage and stun. With a Nova-centric build like this, I think I might go for the Musculature, but you could always craft both and swap them out depending on the foes you are facing.
Judgment will also help with the damage output, of course. For Interface, I would call it a toss-up between Reactive for more damage and Diamagnetic for the -tohit (to stack with your Defense from the IOs). Reactive is probably going to be the better bet most of the time since you will usually wipe things out and won't have to worry about debuffing their to-hit. You'll go Clarion for Destiny, of course. Haven't had a chance to review all the new Lore pets and which ones have a leg up over the others, but the extra damage there will be nice too regardless of what you end up choosing.
This build should be an absolute monster for most PvE content and once it gets rolling can clear maps like not much else can. Your biggest hurdle is going to be taking on tough single enemies like AVs since you'll quickly run out of fuel for Eclipse, Circle and Mire and then gradually your Essences will expire and leave you going toe-to-toe in a reduced capacity. Your best bet for fights like this is to get supercharged with Eclipse and Mire right before entering battle and throw everything you have at the enemy in the opening few seconds of the fight - Lore pets, Judgment powers, Geas of the Kind Ones accolade, the works. Time is not on your side in these fights, but often you can pull out a quick win.
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Build for s/l defense instead of ranged... You need to LIVE in melee for your self buffs, and s/l is the best way to go. I got mine to 30% with 185% global recharge and not gimping anything.
I would definitely go with S/L rather than building for melee defense, especially given the OP's stated intention to play primarily in nova form with the other forms mainly as buffing platforms. I wouldn't say ranged defense is a bad choice given that playstyle, but S/L is good both melee and ranged and covers much of the game's enemies. Energy/NegEnergy you'll already resist fairly well even without Eclipse, which only leaves Fire/Cold (relatively uncommon), Toxic (rare, and not much helps with it anyway) and Psy. Eclipse doesn't help with Psy so that's the one area where I can see Ranged being superior - but you could just as easily simply not fight Carnies or Psychic Clocks.
Still, in most situations, having about 30% S/L is likely to be more valuable than 20% ranged. It's a personal preference situation, and I don't think either is a bad move. You can be very hardy against most content with some specific weaknesses or you can be less tough but perform more evenly. Since probably something like 85% or more of the game's enemies use some form of S/L damage, however, those specific weak points are probably going to be few, far between and easily avoided for the most part. YMMV.
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To be fair, the goal is always to get back to Nova form because it's the source of most of your damage.. Trouble is, you need to shift constantly to keep your dwarf mires stacked, fire human mire as often as possible, and be sure to drop to human when eclipse/hasten is up. Sure it would be great to always be in Nova form, blasting at 300% damage with 85% resistance to all damage and not have to drop to any other forms.. but it doesn't work that way. You'll need to shift constantly to keep your damage up, the dwarf mire expires quickly and the human mire is on a long recharge.
Here is what I came up with should I decide to go the S/L route vs ranged. Feel free to critique this one too. Not sure I will go this route but would not mind having another option ready to go.
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Eclipse doesn't help with Psy so that's the one area where I can see Ranged being superior - but you could just as easily simply not fight Carnies or Psychic Clocks.
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Trouble is, you need to shift constantly to keep your dwarf mires stacked, fire human mire as often as possible, and be sure to drop to human when eclipse/hasten is up.
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My personal take on it is if you plan to stay in nova form most of the time, go ranged defense; if you plan on giving a little more time to either of the other forms, go s/l. I have two builds for that reason myself.
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Eclipse offers the same resistance to psi as it does to everything else.
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Btw, I'd tend to agree about the Dwarf Mire now that it's no longer a straightforward clone of Sunless Mire. I find I don't make near as much use of it as I once did.
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Hi All,
I have an all human WS that I love and finally decided to make a triform. Instead of making a second build, I built another so I could possibly have a WS on 2 servers.
I have been playing this guy with regular IOs minus a couple of Performance shifters, KB and etc... In playing him, I discovered I rarely use Dwarf except for the Mire and periodic mez (Clarion planned for that). That being said, I do love Nova and was hoping to:
1. Live in Nova - Use human to mire/eclipse/stygian (launching pad really)
2. Have Perma eclipse/hasten
3. Have as much ranged defense as practical
4. Have as many pets out as possible
5. Nasty Damage output
Please critique before I start stripping IOs of toons I rarely use anymore....