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Claws / Fire Defense Softcap

Arkyaeon

By Arkyaeon,
Posted on: 2011-07-07 04:12 in Brutes

 

Posted

Hello, Brutes!

I made myself a Claws / Fire Brute, and man, is it fun. I can cut my way through huge mobs easily which, given that I suck, is pretty impressive. But here's the thing.

I'm interested in using IO sets to cover the character's weaknesses - and right now (lvl 35) this appears to be "damage that isn't Fire", and it looks like it's gonna stay that way for a while. I was going to work on maxing out Melee Defense using IO sets, but I'm having difficulty finding appropriate sets for that purpose - Kinetic Combat, for instance, doesn't slot in more than two powers that the build uses.

Can I get some suggestions of sets that improve Melee defense and work with Claws / Fire (PBAoE, resistance sets, f'instance)? Cost is a concern - I'm not looking for a 6-Billion-Inf-Man here - but I can afford the non-purple/PVP "good stuff".

 

Posted

This would be my suggestion, for the end game, as most of the mobs in the Incarnate trials seem to do alot of energy damage.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.942
http://www.cohplanner.com/
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Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery
Villain Profile:


Level 1: Strike

  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Fire Shield
  • (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
  • (3) Reactive Armor - Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
  • (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
  • (11) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
  • (36) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
Level 2: Blazing Aura
  • (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
  • (37) Eradication - Damage: Level 30
  • (39) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage: Level 30
  • (40) Multi Strike - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (40) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Endurance: Level 50
  • (40) Multi Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
Level 4: Healing Flames
  • (A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
  • (5) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
  • (5) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (11) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (15) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (46) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 6: Spin
  • (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
  • (7) Eradication - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
  • (7) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
  • (9) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
  • (9) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
  • (15) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
Level 8: Boxing
  • (A) Empty
Level 10: Temperature Protection
  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
  • (45) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection: Level 30
  • (46) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
Level 12: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (13) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
  • (46) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 14: Super Speed
  • (A) Empty
Level 16: Plasma Shield
  • (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge: Level 40
  • (17) Reactive Armor - Resistance: Level 40
  • (17) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance: Level 40
  • (36) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
  • (36) Reactive Armor - Endurance/Recharge: Level 40
Level 18: Tough
  • (A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 50
  • (19) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 50
  • (19) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (37) Aegis - Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (37) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
Level 20: Consume
  • (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
  • (21) Eradication - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
  • (21) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
Level 22: Weave
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
  • (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 50
  • (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
Level 24: Focus
  • (A) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (25) Devastation - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
  • (25) Devastation - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
  • (42) Devastation - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (43) Entropic Chaos - Accuracy/Damage: Level 35
  • (43) Entropic Chaos - Chance of Heal Self: Level 35
Level 26: Eviscerate
  • (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
  • (27) Eradication - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
  • (27) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
  • (34) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (34) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
  • (42) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
Level 28: Burn
  • (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
  • (29) Eradication - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
  • (29) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
  • (31) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (31) Cleaving Blow - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
  • (34) Cleaving Blow - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
Level 30: Maneuvers
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
  • (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 50
Level 32: Shockwave
  • (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (33) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range: Level 50
  • (33) Detonation - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (33) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge: Level 50
  • (43) Detonation - Damage/Endurance/Range: Level 50
Level 35: Stealth
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 38: Rise of the Phoenix
  • (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
  • (39) Eradication - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
  • (39) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
Level 41: Invisibility
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 44: Ring of Fire
  • (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (45) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (45) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
Level 47: Fire Blast
  • (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 50
  • (48) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
  • (48) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage: Level 50
Level 49: Char
  • (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold: Level 30
  • (50) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
  • (50) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold: Level 30
  • (50) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold: Level 30
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Fury


Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Swift
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Health
  • (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 50
  • (42) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 50
Level 2: Hurdle
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 50
  • (13) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 50
  • (31) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 50
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:
  • 3% DamageBuff(Smashing)
  • 3% DamageBuff(Lethal)
  • 3% DamageBuff(Fire)
  • 3% DamageBuff(Cold)
  • 3% DamageBuff(Energy)
  • 3% DamageBuff(Negative)
  • 3% DamageBuff(Toxic)
  • 3% DamageBuff(Psionic)
  • 5.5% Defense(Smashing)
  • 5.5% Defense(Lethal)
  • 13.6% Defense(Fire)
  • 13.6% Defense(Cold)
  • 32.4% Defense(Energy)
  • 32.4% Defense(Negative)
  • 3% Defense(Psionic)
  • 4.25% Defense(Melee)
  • 17.7% Defense(Ranged)
  • 14.9% Defense(AoE)
  • 9% Max End
  • 37.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 5% FlySpeed
  • 101.2 HP (6.75%) HitPoints
  • 5% JumpHeight
  • 5% JumpSpeed
  • Knockback (Mag -4)
  • Knockup (Mag -4)
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 2.2%
  • MezResist(Sleep) 3.3%
  • 13% (0.22 End/sec) Recovery
  • 54% (3.37 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 0.95% Resistance(Fire)
  • 0.95% Resistance(Cold)
  • 15% RunSpeed
  • 5% XPDebtProtection
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210 50s and still counting!

 

Posted

Thanks for the fast (and pretty complete) reply!

A couple questions -

(1) While I actually appreciate the point about the end-game dealing more with Energy attacks, I'd prefer a stronger / higher Melee defense for my own playstyle. The answer, "You can't get there from here" is fine, though, but are there sets that offer Melee Defense (even if the other bonuses aren't great)?

(2) For Health - why no Miracle? Is it just a lack of slots? I usually slot health with Numina's +/+ and Heal, plus Miracle + and Heal.

 

Posted

I have a bit more time to give you a better reply. I enjoy the hell out of claws/fire. The first one I made I ran through in Praetoria. As I liked the fast attacks, a PbAoe at level 6 and the ability to be "decent" against most things from 1-20 in Praetoria. The self-heal on a quick timer also helped.

What I noticed is that most of the mobs in Praetoria did fire, energy, or smashing and lethal. And a few mobs seemed to like ranged and or aoe attacks. The clockwork, IDF, PPD and the Syndicate come to mind. The one weakness was against psi or toxic but if the heal was up enough, you got to have some toxic resist as well.

As I moved into CoV, doing radio and tip missions untill I got some contacts under my belt lead me to working up a few different builds.

Until I hit the late 40s up to 50 and Incarnate powers, which lead me to trying to get a build that was good to go in many situations. Both in the trials, as a farm toon, and on almost any Oro arc that sent me back to my younger days build wise.

I typically do not use miracle unless I two or three slot it for bonuses. I would rather go two slots of numina's.

I also have two accounts so I tend to use one as veng bait, and I like having the bonus during tf's and trials, incase the poop hits the fan.

I also use Shockwave and the Forced Feedback proc liberally. It brings back the attacks, Healing Flames and Consume all the faster.

This build includes those Incarnate Abilities I have unlocked and slotted.

Follow up is slotted with Mako's bite for the damage buff and extra hp. It could as easily be slotted for Kinetic Combat.

To answer your question, Kinetic Combat and Obliteration give bonuses to Melee and S/L def. Personally I prefer to get positional defense, as they are easier to find.

If you turn on Vengence you can see what it does to the defense totals. You should be pleasently surprised.

My other goal was to use as few purples as possible. I like what happened without them.

Hope this helps give you your own ideas.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.942
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Strike -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(A), Aegis-ResDam:50(3), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(3), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg:50(40), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42)
Level 2: Blazing Aura -- Erad-Dmg:30(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(39), Erad-%Dam:30(40), EndRdx-I:50(40), EndRdx-I:50(42)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(5), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(5), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg:50(27), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(34), Heal-I:50(42)
Level 6: Spin -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), Oblit-%Dam:50(7), Oblit-Dmg:50(7), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(9), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(15), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(43)
Level 8: Slash -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(15)
Level 10: Temperature Protection -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(11), GA-3defTpProc:50(46)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(13), RechRdx-I:50(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(17), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(17)
Level 18: Focus -- Mocking-Taunt:50(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng:50(19), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg:50(19), Mocking-Acc/Rchg:50(23), Mocking-Rchg:50(23), Mocking-Taunt/Rng:50(25)
Level 20: Consume -- Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(21), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(21)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(43), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(43)
Level 24: Tactics -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 26: Vengeance -- HO:Membr(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(27)
Level 28: Burn -- Erad-Dmg:30(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(29), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(29), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(31), Erad-%Dam:30(31), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(31)
Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:30(46)
Level 32: Shockwave -- Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), FrcFbk-Rechg%:50(34)
Level 35: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng:50(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg:50(36), Mocking-Taunt:50(36), Mocking-Acc/Rchg:50(36), Mocking-Rchg:50(37), Mocking-Taunt/Rng:50(37)
Level 38: Rise of the Phoenix -- Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(39), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(39)
Level 41: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 44: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg:40(45), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(45), RctvArm-ResDam:40(45), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(46)
Level 47: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold:30(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg:30(48), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold:30(48), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:30(48)
Level 49: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(50), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
Level 50: Pyronic Core Final Judgement
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A), Empty(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A), Empty(25), Empty(37)
Level 4: Ninja Run

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210 50s and still counting!

 

Posted

And here is an idea for a build that takes you a small purple inspiration from softcap to type except psi and toxic, while being not to shabby at postitional.



Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.942
http://www.cohplanner.com/
Click this DataLink to open the build!
Level 50 Magic Brute
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Pyre Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Strike -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:30(34), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(37)
Level 1: Fire Shield -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(3), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(3), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(13), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg:50(40)
Level 2: Blazing Aura -- Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(A), Erad-%Dam:30(37), Erad-Dmg:30(39), EndRdx-I:50(40)
Level 4: Healing Flames -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(5), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(5), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg:50(27), Aegis-Psi/Status:50(34), Heal-I:50(42)
Level 6: Spin -- Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(A), Erad-Dmg:30(7), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(7), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(9), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(15), Erad-%Dam:30(46)
Level 8: Follow Up -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(15)
Level 10: Temperature Protection -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB:30(11), GA-3defTpProc:50(43)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(13)
Level 14: Super Speed -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 16: Plasma Shield -- Aegis-ResDam:50(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx:50(17), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg:50(17)
Level 18: Focus -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(19), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(19), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg:50(23), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx:50(23), Thundr-Acc/Dmg:50(40)
Level 20: Consume -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), Oblit-%Dam:50(21), Oblit-Dmg:50(21), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(25), Oblit-Acc/Rchg:50(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg:50(39)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(42), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(42)
Level 24: Tactics -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 26: Vengeance -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), HO:Membr(27)
Level 28: Burn -- Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(A), Erad-Dmg:30(29), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(29), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(31), Erad-%Dam:30(31), Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(31)
Level 30: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(46)
Level 32: Shockwave -- Posi-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg:50(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng:50(33), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(34), FrcFbk-Rechg%:50(46)
Level 35: Slash -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(36), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(36), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(36)
Level 38: Rise of the Phoenix -- Erad-Acc/Rchg:30(A)
Level 41: Boxing -- HO:Nucle(A)
Level 44: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-EndRdx/Rchg:40(45), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(45), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(45), RctvArm-ResDam:40(48)
Level 47: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(48), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx:50(48)
Level 49: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold:30(A), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold:30(50), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg:30(50), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:30(50)
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
Level 50: Pyronic Radial Final Judgement
Level 50: Reactive Partial Core Conversion
Level 50: Warworks Core Superior Ally
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Fury
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), Numna-Heal:50(43)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod/Acc:50(A), P'Shift-EndMod:50(25), P'Shift-End%:50(43)
Level 4: Ninja Run

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/downl...09E33F0A60ED41

210 50s and still counting!

 

Posted

Darn..I will try to edit it to work.

But wouldn't copying and pasting into Mids' work as well?

210 50s and still counting!

 

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Mids either needs a data chunk or a saved file that is generated by clicking on the link. Post data chunks when you post builds. Also the set bonus totals are not useful to display on the forum because the builds have to be opened in Mids to see all of the powers and sets working together.


My advice is to aim for 32.5% S/L and E/N defense. One small inspiration can then get you to 45%, but you will find that 32.5% is enough for a lot of situations. Going past that with Fiery Aura is going to hurt your recharge too much and you won't be able to run a decent attack chain. You will probably want Weave, Combat Jumping, and Maneuvers in addition to Hasten.