QoL - Incarnate Thread to XP warning


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I would like there to be a warning popup when crafting physical and psychic XP with incarnate threads; If the 50,000 XP I'll earn from converting will go over the amount I need to unlock the last slot, just have a window pop up warning me that some of the XP will be wasted, and tell me how much. If I only need 3,000 more XP to unlock the last physical slot, for example, I'd just as soon save the thread and inf and earn that in a trial.


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They already give you the percentage needed to finish the slot, and you should be able to see "Oh, buying it in this one gives me 3.3%, this one gives me 2%." It's already simple math. Plus, neither threads (nor, at this point, the INF required for them) are all that difficult to get.

Plus, it doesn't let you spend *past* that anyway. At most, you've "wasted" (and I use that term loosely, as burning the thread for this gets you your goal) 1 thread and up to 1 mill INF. If you could "spend" past it (you need 2%, you find you've burned 6 threads,) then maybe - but I wouldn't expect *that* to get out of beta.


 

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Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill View Post
They already give you the percentage needed to finish the slot, and you should be able to see "Oh, buying it in this one gives me 3.3%, this one gives me 2%." It's already simple math. Plus, neither threads (nor, at this point, the INF required for them) are all that difficult to get.

Plus, it doesn't let you spend *past* that anyway. At most, you've "wasted" (and I use that term loosely, as burning the thread for this gets you your goal) 1 thread and up to 1 mill INF. If you could "spend" past it (you need 2%, you find you've burned 6 threads,) then maybe - but I wouldn't expect *that* to get out of beta.

Bill is totally correct. I sort of tested the coversion from threads to IXP on BETA when they were giving away astrals and emps. To go for absolute zero % to open .. Judgement and Interface require 30 threads/ 30 million INF each. To do the same with Lore and Destiny it required 45 threads/45 million in INF a piece.

Now if you have run a few trials and earned say 10 or 20% of that total obviously you use less but at most a portion of 1 thread and a portion of 1 million INF is the most you are wasting to finish opening any power slot. If it's Judgement or Interface it isn't even being wasted .. simply transfers and begins the process of opening Destiny or Lore. So at most you are wasting a total of 2 threads and 2 million in INF to have all 4 powers opened up. well to be totally correct you are WASTING part of that 2 threads/2 million... the other part was used to buy whatever percentage of IXP you still needed to be done.

And yes folks if you just did the math that means you need 150 threads and 150 million in Inf to open up all 4 powers without ever doin a trial..

So if you are doing TFs and earning shards.. you can convert 10 shards a day to 10 threads for 2.5 million You need to EARN 10 shard a day and convert daily and in only 15 days you will have what you need at a cost of 37.5 million INF. Then convert all those shards to threads and you have 4 brand new open powers with nothing slotted in them and it cost you another 150 million.

Each tier one power required three common components at a cost of 20 threads each or 60 total and each tier two power require an umcommon (60 threads) and two more commons (40 threads). So to get all 4 powers to tier 2 you will now need another 640 threads 60 threads + 100 threads X 4 powers. thats another 64 days of converting shards to threads and an additional cost of 160 million INF.

At that point you have gone through 347.5 million in influence and still don't have one addition level shift. To get one power (LORE or Destiny if you want a level shift) to tier three you will now need to make 4 uncommons and gather an additional 100 threads... 4 x 60 = 240 for the uncommons plus the 100 so JUST to craft a rare requires another 340 threads and then you need another 2 commons to actually craft a rare(tier 3) power for a total cost per power of 380 threads.. That's another 34 days of converting 10 shards to ten threads at an additional cost of 85 million. Do that twice and you now have al three level shifts! Lets total that all up for you shall we

In all its going to take you 147 days ( or almost 5 months) to convert shards to threads and open and slot judgement to tier 2, Lore to tier 3, interface to tier 2 and Destiny to teir 3. You will spend roughly 517.5 million in Influence to achieve that. You could cut costs by only slotting Judement and Interface to tier one or not slotting them at all but JUDGEMENT is actually a good power ( a mini nuke that recovers fast and doesn't use up all you end) and INTERFACE allows any AT to debuff enemies and do added damage over time.

That's what anyone trying to gain incarnate powers without doing trials faces at the moment so wasting part of 1 thread and a portion of million in INF to finish opening a power seems like a small price to pay to me.


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Originally Posted by Vanden View Post
I would like there to be a warning popup when crafting physical and psychic XP with incarnate threads; If the 50,000 XP I'll earn from converting will go over the amount I need to unlock the last slot, just have a window pop up warning me that some of the XP will be wasted, and tell me how much. If I only need 3,000 more XP to unlock the last physical slot, for example, I'd just as soon save the thread and inf and earn that in a trial.
Ironically, this is the opposite of how I normally feel. I usually use the trials to get to 80-90% and then (especially if I already have the power crafted) may just use threads to finish it off. I don't care if I need 50,000 or 1 xp at that point, since I just want to unlock the dang slot.

Although I have not run a trial to unlock any slots since the I20.5 XP nerf.


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You could always slow down while clicking...and check the other tab to see where you stand...like someone else mentioned.


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