Elec/ and capped s/l/e resists...


Auroxis

 

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Say if I were to go about making an elec/ tank and shot for capping s/l resists, would I also want to build for defense or just straight recharge? Curious if defense is necessary (I know it would be great to layer it over the resist) or focusing on getting energize up faster would be enough.

Also, are there any sets that make it easier to build for? i've been looking at /wm or /ba and having to 6 slot laser beam eyes from energy mastery to get that last little bit of resistance (6th slot of Analyze Weakness gives the largest s/l that I could find together).

I know I've seen a build with capped s/l/e resists but I can't remember where or what the secondary was.

Thanks for any/all help!


SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)

 

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Yep defense is necessary, more-so than hardcapping S/L resists. It's also a lot easier to fit in your build. That said, you can certainly fit recharge, +HP, resistance hardcap, and have some form of softcap going on.

For example, you can reach 32.5% defense to positional defenses and use purple insps or Gloom/Dark Obliteration/Darkest Night to close the gap. Then you have Darkest Night providing -damage on top of that, which can be stacked further with Paralytic interface, Kinetic Melee, and Void Judgement. All you need after that is decent amounts of recharge to get Energize up and Rebirth to give you a heavy regen/heal boost.


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Mains (Freedom) @Auroxis
Auroxis - Emp/Rad/Power Defender Pylon Video Soloing an AV
Pelvic Thunder - SS/Elec/Mu Brute
Sorajin - Elec/Nin Stalker
Neuropain - Sonic/Mental/Elec Blaster

 

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Aha! I'm pretty sure it was that you were the one with the build I saw. Thanks, Auroxis! Such a crazy build. Way out of my budget, right now, however. I try to build without purples and PvP IOs, though the random unique or proc isn't too bad.

Building without those two types of sets, would 80%+ s/l resist and 32.5% s/l defense (if positional def isn't achievable) with a decent chunk of recharge for Energize be good? /KM is out along with /DM, /IM, /ElM, and /SS as I try to not use the same powersets multiple times. Energy Melee is out, too, since the change to ET.

Kinda interested in 1 of the 3 weapon sets or Stone Melee. Most of my tanking experience is with an Ice/Ice/Soul tank and I had a WP/FM tank for a while (she got rerolled into my km/reg scrapper). Suggestions?

My main goal with a new tank, whether it's Elec/ or not, is to have a tank that is better suited for the things that my Icer probably shouldn't handle. That said, my Icer has handled at least 90-95% of the game's content very well. I'm also looking ahead at what future content may bring and Elec/ seems best suited for the job.

Side Note: I did something similar to your build with a dark/wm tank. Difference was that instead of positional it was all typed defense it was ~33% defense (s/l/e/n/f/c).


SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)

 

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I can certainly see going for Barrier instead of Rebirth, and then building around Barrier for the Defense and Resistance caps being a more affordable option, albeit less effective overall.

S/L/N/E 32.5% is easier to build for than the positional 32.5%, but it also provides you with less exotic protection.


Mains (Freedom) @Auroxis
Auroxis - Emp/Rad/Power Defender Pylon Video Soloing an AV
Pelvic Thunder - SS/Elec/Mu Brute
Sorajin - Elec/Nin Stalker
Neuropain - Sonic/Mental/Elec Blaster

 

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Originally Posted by Auroxis View Post
I can certainly see going for Barrier instead of Rebirth, and then building around Barrier for the Defense and Resistance caps being a more affordable option, albeit less effective overall.

S/L/N/E 32.5% is easier to build for than the positional 32.5%, but it also provides you with less exotic protection.
How about this? Elec/Mace with positional defense softcapped with one luck. Kept Power Surge for scenarios with lots of exotic damage (namely the sewer run in Apex - Toxic). Also has 132.5% recharge with hasten running.

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SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)

 

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Looks solid, but the PvP IO kind of spoils the whole "cheap build" thing you were aiming for.


Mains (Freedom) @Auroxis
Auroxis - Emp/Rad/Power Defender Pylon Video Soloing an AV
Pelvic Thunder - SS/Elec/Mu Brute
Sorajin - Elec/Nin Stalker
Neuropain - Sonic/Mental/Elec Blaster

 

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Originally Posted by Auroxis View Post
Looks solid, but the PvP IO kind of spoils the whole "cheap build" thing you were aiming for.
Indeed, but at least it's just one that I can shoot for instead of a whole set's worth. Just as I'm slowly working towards the -res pvp IO for my Ice tank, lol.

Even without the PVP +3% defense, I'm still looking at ~42% defense, which is effectively softcapped, IMO, or so it feels. I know that much from experience on my arch/dev blaster that rides on 42-43% range defense.

So definitely wouldn't be in a rush to get the PVP IO. Anyway, thanks for the help, comments, feedback, and everything else, Auroxis! Now to make a concept that fits! :-)


SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)