on my DB/DA scrapper I swapped the fitness pool out for taking boxing, tough & weave. think its the "fighting" pool. once you get to choose the epic pool, take body mastery for conserve power & physical perfection. (believe you have to take a lower tier before conserve power) DA is alot more fun once you dont have to stop after every mob to wait for your blue bar to catch up.
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Originally Posted by Chuggernaut
on my DB/DA scrapper I swapped the fitness pool out for taking boxing, tough & weave. think its the "fighting" pool. once you get to choose the epic pool, take body mastery for conserve power & physical perfection. (believe you have to take a lower tier before conserve power) DA is alot more fun once you dont have to stop after every mob to wait for your blue bar to catch up.
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Thank you, much appreciated!
Broad Sword & Dark Armor yes?
I could see grabbing either Medicine (for Aid Self) or Fighting (for Tough) in place of Fitness.
Slotting DA has got a LOT more technical since IO sets. However for leveling you don't need to worry about it. Ask, but reserve judgement until 50. As for where you should be: doing WST for great justice.
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Originally Posted by gameboy1234
Broad Sword & Dark Armor yes?
I could see grabbing either Medicine (for Aid Self) or Fighting (for Tough) in place of Fitness. Slotting DA has got a LOT more technical since IO sets. However for leveling you don't need to worry about it. Ask, but reserve judgement until 50. As for where you should be: doing WST for great justice. |
I'm sorry, what does that means?
and Thanks for the help!
and Thanks for the help!
Also, Be careful with Oppressive Gloom, if you get into a really large group with a few bosses the -HP can start ticking off pretty good without affecting the bosses very much. and Dark Regen is one of the best self heals in the game.
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I'm sorry, what does that means? and Thanks for the help! |
Don't go crazy on the IO sets until after you get to higher level, they're nice, especially with the set bonuses you can get, but for leveling all you need to do is make sure your powers' stats are in the right places....you can save set bonuses for later
also, note that fitness is now inherent, if you left before that became the standard, the old fitness is still there, respec and you get the Fitness pool for free and that should free up 3 powers
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I think he means:
Don't go crazy on the IO sets until after you get to higher level, they're nice, especially with the set bonuses you can get, but for leveling all you need to do is make sure your powers' stats are in the right places....you can save set bonuses for later also, note that fitness is now inherent, if you left before that became the standard, the old fitness is still there, respec and you get the Fitness pool for free and that should free up 3 powers |
Ahh, thank you! since i'm not buying IO's should i stack the regular ehancements i get from vendors? ++ them?
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Originally Posted by Devilscyborg
Ahh, thank you! since i'm not buying IO's should i stack the regular ehancements i get from vendors? ++ them? |
IE, rather than look at a set for what set-bonuses it gets early on, look to see what sort of enhancements get you the best stats
for example, you could get Dam/Acc, Dam/Acc, Dam/Rec, Dam/Rec, Acc/End, Acc/End from two different sets and you'd end up with overall better stats than if you just did the normal Accx2, Damx3, Rec
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Originally Posted by Devilscyborg
Ahh, thank you! since i'm not buying IO's should i stack the regular ehancements i get from vendors? ++ them? |
IOs are still good to buy, just not absolutely necessary
also you will save money in the long run if you buy IOs at level 30+ and then just save up, because IOs will never degrade
if low on money, just go for common IOs and SOs
if you've got some money on hand or picked up some good recipes, "Frankenslotting" is a good option
for example, take the Dam/Acc from two different sets, Dam/Rec from two different sets and Acc/End from two different sets
and with that (depending on the level of IO you buy) you have the about the same as taking 4 Acc SOs, 4 Dam SOs, 1 Rec SO and 1 End SO, perhaps a little bit higher, in fact
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Yes, mostly this. Also, you might get more than on opinion on how to slot your character, and you might want to actually get to 50 to see how it plays, before you decide to go with one concept over another.|
Originally Posted by Lycanus
IOs are still good to buy, just not absolutely necessary
also you will save money in the long run if you buy IOs at level 30+ and then just save up, because IOs will never degrade |
You'll do fine with regular SOs if you want to save your cash. (With Tip missions though, there isn't much reason to be short on cash). Simple slotting with IOs or IO sets will work for now if you want to start learning the system. But save the really expensive stuff for later, after you've learned more and decided for yourself what to do. It's nothing you have to tackle right away.
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yeah, don't try to save up the millions(billions?) to get a complete Kinetic Combat set until you know for sure it will help your build|
Originally Posted by gameboy1234
Yes, mostly this. Also, you might get more than on opinion on how to slot your character, and you might want to actually get to 50 to see how it plays, before you decide to go with one concept over another.
You'll do fine with regular SOs if you want to save your cash. (With Tip missions though, there isn't much reason to be short on cash). Simple slotting with IOs or IO sets will work for now if you want to start learning the system. But save the really expensive stuff for later, after you've learned more and decided for yourself what to do. It's nothing you have to tackle right away. |
as just one example
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Thanks guys! really helping me out, Great community some guy i grouped up with gave me 50mill. I thought I was rich with 8mill, but i guess not,! haha
Anyway that helped me buy some standard Enhancement slots from the Natural Vendor in one of the cities, I guess I should go back and reslot with common IO's, where could I find those though?
Anyway that helped me buy some standard Enhancement slots from the Natural Vendor in one of the cities, I guess I should go back and reslot with common IO's, where could I find those though?
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Thanks guys! really helping me out, Great community some guy i grouped up with gave me 50mill. I thought I was rich with 8mill, but i guess not,! haha Anyway that helped me buy some standard Enhancement slots from the Natural Vendor in one of the cities, I guess I should go back and reslot with common IO's, where could I find those though? |
you can sometimes get them for less of a price from the auction house, but usually better not to risk...careful with that 50, that's enough to make you think you've got a lot
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yeah, don't try to save up the millions(billions?) to get a complete Kinetic Combat set until you know for sure it will help your build
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If you don't wish to spend any inf other than the crafting cost, then you just need a total of 5 alignment merits and 50 normal reward merits (for the one piece that can't be bought with alignment merits.)
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If someone is paying billions for a complete Kinetic Combat set, they are doing it wrong.
If you don't wish to spend any inf other than the crafting cost, then you just need a total of 5 alignment merits and 50 normal reward merits (for the one piece that can't be bought with alignment merits.) |
just know the prices on the auctionhouse are in the 150mils
was looking at gathering some for a friend recently, ended up harvesting my unused recipes in my characters to send him
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so right around 10 days then
just know the prices on the auctionhouse are in the 150mils was looking at gathering some for a friend recently, ended up harvesting my unused recipes in my characters to send him |
Additionally, if you decide to spend the inf, go for the uncrafted recipes instead of crafted. You could save a ton of money that way. Patience is key here, as well as a willingness to go for pieces that may be a level or 2 below the target level you are planning for. 27-30 or 26-30 is becoming my standard (just got 2 level 29 Damage/Recharges this morning for 5 1/2 million each, and their enhancement values are only a mere .3% less than level 30s, of which the last 3 sold for 33 million.)
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That's only 10 days if you are only running tips on a single character. Once you are familiar with the various tip missions, you can easily cycle through, say, 3 or 4 characters each day for tips and get that K-Combat set in a much shorter time.
Additionally, if you decide to spend the inf, go for the uncrafted recipes instead of crafted. You could save a ton of money that way. Patience is key here, as well as a willingness to go for pieces that may be a level or 2 below the target level you are planning for. 27-30 or 26-30 is becoming my standard (just got 2 level 29 Damage/Recharges this morning for 5 1/2 million each, and their enhancement values are only a mere .3% less than level 30s, of which the last 3 sold for 33 million.) |
unfortunately, I stretch my time to do 5 missions, and usually don't even sign on
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Here you go Devilscyborg, read this thread: http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=189427
There's a wealth of information about BS/DA and Kat/DA in there (they are very similar combos)
I put together a rather good build comparitively cheaply. (meaning I only spent a couple hundred million influence as opposed to the billions some high end scrapper builds cost).
There's also some input in the thread from some of the more knowledgable scrapper players (I can almost claim to be one of them, but I'm not quite there yet)
Hope it helps you some. The thread is a little outdated, but the majority of the information in it should still be relevant.
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I have a couple questions to ask, hope you can help!
1. I'm following the The Swiss Army Scrapper Build, is it still good?
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=115009
01) --> Dark Embrace==> EndRdx(1) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(17) DmgRes(27)
02) --> Death Shroud==> EndRdx(2) Acc(7) Dmg(13) Dmg(15) Dmg(15)
04) --> Murky Cloud==> EndRdx(4) DmgRes(29) DmgRes(29) DmgRes(31)
06) --> Combat Jumping==> DefBuf(6)
08) --> Parry==> Acc(8) Acc(9) DefBuf(9) DefBuf(11) DefBuf(11) EndRdx(13)
10) --> Obsidian Shield==> EndRdx(10) DmgRes(31) DmgRes(31) DmgRes(34)
12) --> Hurdle==> Jump(12)
14) --> Super Jump==> Jump(14)
16) --> Health==> Heal(16)
18) --> Whirling Sword==> Acc(18) Dmg(19) Dmg(19) Dmg(23) EndRdx(23) Rechg(27)
20) --> Stamina==> EndMod(20) EndMod(21) EndMod(21)
22) --> Acrobatics==> EndRdx(22)
24) --> Dark Regeneration==> EndRdx(24) EndRdx(25) Acc(25)
26) --> Cloak Of Darkness==> EndRdx(26)
28) --> Build Up==> Rechg(28)
30) --> Provoke==> Acc(30)
32) --> Head Splitter==> Acc(32) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Dmg(33) Rechg(34) EndRdx(34)
35) --> Oppressive Gloom==> EndRdx(35)
2. As you can see i have to use the fitness power set, what should I substitute for it?
Also if there is a better build for scrappers, i'd love for you to link it
thank you!
Also, where should I be at 39?