Mace/Will need help


admiralphilip

 

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I'm trying to get my brute to be perma hasten and at the soft cap but I'm stuck at just being able to get 38% defense for s/l and I need to shave off at least 20 seconds from hasten to make it perma, any advice?

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Level 50 Science Brute
Primary Power Set: War Mace
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Pulverize -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam(7), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(9), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 2: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam(17)
Level 4: Jawbreaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(7), LkGmblr-Def(15), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(15)
Level 8: Fast Healing -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(13), Numna-Heal/Rchg(21), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(25), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 10: Super Jump -- ULeap-EndRdx(A), ULeap-Jump(13), ULeap-Stlth(19)
Level 12: Build Up -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(17)
Level 14: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(31), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(31), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), LkGmblr-Def(33), LkGmblr-Rchg+(33)
Level 16: Clobber -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(29), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 18: Rise to the Challenge -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb(A), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/Rchg(36), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(37), DarkWD-Rchg/EndRdx(37), DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(37), DarkWD-Slow%(39)
Level 20: Whirling Mace -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 22: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(23)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 26: Boxing -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 28: Shatter -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Oblit-%Dam(36), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(42), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(43), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 30: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-EndRdx/Rchg(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46), LkGmblr-Rchg+(46)
Level 32: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(34), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), RctvArm-ResDam(42)
Level 35: Crowd Control -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-%Dam(43), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(48), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(48), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 38: Resurgence -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Strength of Will -- Aegis-ResDam(A)
Level 44: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(45), RedFtn-Def(46), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 47: Superior Conditioning -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), RgnTis-Regen+(36)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(50)
Level 1: Fury
Level 4: Ninja Run



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Okay after a bit of tweaking I was able to get s/l defense up to 42% but hasten still isn't perma need to shave around 15 seconds still, but I'm unsure where the slots are going to come from for that. Here is the updated build.

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Level 50 Science Brute
Primary Power Set: War Mace
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Pulverize -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(11)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/EndRdx(A), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(7), Aegis-Psi/Status(9), Aegis-ResDam(37)
Level 2: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(3), RctvArm-ResDam(17)
Level 4: Jawbreaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(7), LkGmblr-Def(15), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(15)
Level 8: Fast Healing -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Numna-Heal(13), Numna-Heal/Rchg(21), Numna-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(21), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(25), Numna-EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 10: Super Jump -- ULeap-EndRdx(A), ULeap-Jump(13), ULeap-Stlth(19)
Level 12: Build Up -- Rec'dRet-ToHit(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg(17)
Level 14: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(31), RedFtn-Def(33), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(33), RedFtn-EndRdx(33)
Level 16: Clobber -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(29), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(34)
Level 18: Rise to the Challenge -- DisWord-ToHitDeb(A), DisWord-ToHitDeb/Rchg(36), DisWord-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(37)
Level 20: Whirling Mace -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(39), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Oblit-%Dam(40)
Level 22: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(23)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27), RechRdx-I(27)
Level 26: Boxing -- Dmg-I(A)
Level 28: Shatter -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), Oblit-%Dam(36), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(42), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(43), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 30: Heightened Senses -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(31), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45), RedFtn-Def(45), RedFtn-EndRdx(46), LkGmblr-Rchg+(46)
Level 32: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(34), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34), RctvArm-ResDam(42)
Level 35: Crowd Control -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Oblit-%Dam(43), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(48), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(48)
Level 38: Resurgence -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Strength of Will -- Aegis-ResDam(A)
Level 44: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(45), RedFtn-Def(46), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 47: Superior Conditioning -- P'Shift-End%(A)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(50), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(50), RedFtn-Def(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+(A), RgnTis-Regen+(36)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(37)
Level 1: Fury
Level 4: Ninja Run



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Just out of curiosity, but why is it so important for you to have perma-hasten? It's never been my impression that Mace/WP is a combo that would benefit that much from extremely high recharge.

There are a lot of suggestions I'd make to improve your build--for instance, FH, IW and HS are way overslotted, and RttC is poorly slotted--but none of would necessarily increase the amount of recharge.

Would you entertain any recommendations, or just those that would get you to perma-hasten?


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Any suggestions would be helpful.


 

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Softcapped to Smashing & Lethal.

Permahasten with Spiritual Core Paragon.

It's not cheap...




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Quote:
Originally Posted by Finduilas View Post
Yes, I tend to shy away from recommending purples, PvP IOs and the GA +Def since I never use them myself. However it's certainly true that with a big enough budget, it is possible to get perma-hasten and soft-cap S/L def.

I don't usually recommend all of that stuff either, but the OP asked for "perma hasten" - I'm assuming if they know that much, they must know it usually requires purples.

Or, I have just informed the OP that permahasten + softcap is out of his budget range.


 

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Thanks for reply, I got a very large budget so expensive io's don't worry me. Also I'm more interested in survivability then perma-hasten. So is there a way to squeeze more defense/resistance from this set while still being able to do 'decent' damage? I don't mind sacrificing some recharge to do it cause it would be nice to be able to solo AV's with this build.


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by admiralphilip View Post
Thanks for reply, I got a very large budget so expensive io's don't worry me. Also I'm more interested in survivability then perma-hasten. So is there a way to squeeze more defense/resistance from this set while still being able to do 'decent' damage? I don't mind sacrificing some recharge to do it cause it would be nice to be able to solo AV's with this build.

I can give you more resistances through the PvP 3% IO as well as going Cardiac instead of Spiritual.

However, to give you better defenses to damage types beyond SM/L would require significant sacrifices in recharge and at that point I think you would want to stick with Spiritual instead.

You will also be able to solo some AVs with the use of inspirations/incarnate powers.

So unless you want to specifically solo AVs with no inspirations, I'm not sure I would do as you are suggesting.


However, if you want to squeeze out more damage, you can also try to find a way to squeeze the Fury of the gladiator proc into Shatter, as I think the best attack chain for WM is:

Shatter > Clobber > Pulverize


 

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With some judicious use of PvP IOs and Hami-Os, I was able to soft-cap to both S/L and E/NE and still retain high charge, though not quite perma-Hasten. If you were to get the Spiritual Core Paragon with this build, you'd be 9 seconds off Perma-Hasten. Another option, as Deus mentioned earlier, is if you were to go with the Cardiac Core Paragon, which would greatly reduce endurance consumption and squeeze a few more percent of resistance in--S/L would be just over 60%.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.942
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Level 50 Science Brute
Primary Power Set: War Mace
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Pulverize -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(9), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(11), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(11), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(25)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), ResDam-I:50(7), ResDam-I:50(9), GA-3defTpProc:50(15), Heal-I:50(25), Heal-I:50(37)
Level 2: Mind Over Body -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(3), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(3), RctvArm-ResDam:40(17)
Level 4: Jawbreaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(19), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(5), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(5), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(13)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), HO:Cyto(7), Ksmt-ToHit+:30(45)
Level 8: Fast Healing -- Numna-Heal/EndRdx:50(A), Numna-Heal:50(13), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+:50(15), Numna-Heal/Rchg:50(21)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), HO:Cyto(31), SW-ResDam/Re TP:50(40)
Level 12: Super Jump -- ULeap-Stlth:50(A)
Level 14: Clobber -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:35(23), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(29), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(34), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Panac-Heal/EndRedux:50(A), Panac-EndRdx/Rchg:50(17), Panac-Heal/+End:50(21), Panac-Heal/Rchg:50(36), Panac-Heal/EndRedux/Rchg:50(37)
Level 18: Whirling Mace -- Erad-Dmg:30(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(19), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(39), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(39), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(40)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-End%:50(23)
Level 22: Build Up -- Rec'dRet-ToHit:20(A), Rec'dRet-ToHit/Rchg:20(31)
Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(27), RechRdx-I:50(27)
Level 26: Shatter -- Erad-Dmg:30(A), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(29), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(36), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(42), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(43)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(31), HO:Cyto(45)
Level 30: Boxing -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg:35(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx:35(33), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg:35(33), KntkC'bat-Knock%:35(33)
Level 32: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg:40(34), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(34), RctvArm-ResDam:40(42)
Level 35: Crowd Control -- Erad-Dmg:30(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg:30(39), Erad-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:30(40), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:30(42), M'Strk-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(43)
Level 38: Strength of Will -- ResDam-I:50(A)
Level 41: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def:50(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(43), HO:Cyto(45)
Level 44: Gloom -- SipInsght-ToHitDeb:50(A), SipInsght-Acc/ToHitDeb:50(46), SipInsght-%ToHit:50(46), SipInsght-Acc/Rchg:50(48), SipInsght-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg:50(48)
Level 47: Darkest Night -- DarkWD-ToHitDeb/EndRdx:50(A), DarkWD-ToHitDeb:50(48), DarkWD-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx:50(50)
Level 49: Maneuvers -- LkGmblr-Rchg+:50(A), LkGmblr-Def:50(50), HO:Cyto(50)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I:45(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 2: Health -- Mrcl-Rcvry+:40(A), RgnTis-Regen+:30(36)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod:50(A), P'Shift-End%:50(37)
Level 1: Fury
Level 4: Ninja Run
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Set Bonus Totals:

  • 29.1% Defense(Smashing)
  • 29.1% Defense(Lethal)
  • 6% Defense(Fire)
  • 6% Defense(Cold)
  • 17.9% Defense(Energy)
  • 17.9% Defense(Negative)
  • 6% Defense(Psionic)
  • 17.6% Defense(Melee)
  • 11.9% Defense(Ranged)
  • 6% Defense(AoE)
  • 5.4% Max End
  • 6% Enhancement(Heal)
  • 9% Enhancement(Accuracy)
  • 45% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
  • 14% FlySpeed
  • 241.8 HP (16.1%) HitPoints
  • 14% JumpHeight
  • 14% JumpSpeed
  • MezResist(Immobilize) 13.2%
  • 5% (0.08 End/sec) Recovery
  • 52% (3.25 HP/sec) Regeneration
  • 3% Resistance(Smashing)
  • 3% Resistance(Fire)
  • 3% Resistance(Cold)
  • 3% Resistance(Energy)
  • 3% Resistance(Negative)
  • 3% Resistance(Toxic)
  • 3% Resistance(Psionic)
  • 3% Resistance(Lethal)
  • 14% RunSpeed
  • 2% XPDebtProtection

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My Characters

Knight Court--A CoH Story Complete 2/3/2012

 

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Okay good to know thanks Deus_Otiosus and Finduilas