Doctor Who - 28th May - The Almost People


ArcticFahx

 

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I was shocked by the ending but probably not the way you are thinking.

The entire premise of the two episodes was that the gangers were people too. They had all the same memories and feelings and were every bit as real a person as the originals. It was stressed again and again how much they suffered when they were casually discarded and that they could remember being dissolved and suffering. There were even the eyes that survived that seemingly had some form of sentience.

Then the doctor informs them that just traveling in the tardis has stabilized their bodies so they are now truly human.



And then he casually dissolves the ganger Amy just because she isn't the real deal. Which means that all of his preaching and such trying to get the others to accept the gangers as real people was him lying and stalling for time in order to get the readings he needed. That he didn't consider the gangers to be real people but just a tool. Exactly the same way that the prejudiced humans considered them to be.

Yes I know it was actually just poor writing (and directing) but since it is an episode it is canon. Which either means that the gangers aren't real feeling people after all or else The Doctor can and has casually killed somebody just because they were inconvenient to him.
Honestly it wasn't quite like that,
the Real Amy was controlling the Ganger Amy the exact same way( well sort of), as the people did on the island before the freak accident that gave them Sentience. The difference was, Amy didn't realize she was in remote control of the Ganger( hence why she kept seeing the Eye Patch lady. The other difference( and I hope they explain this at some point), is the unit she was using, was capable of remote controlling Ganger Amy across Time and Space, and even Pocket Universes. That strikes me of Time Lord lvl tech.


 

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I have to nitpick here and remind you that it was explicitly stated multiple times in the series that it was vital to cremate deceased Time Lords, on a pyre so they are truly immolated, because even a single substantial bit of them could conceivably make some very horrible people very powerful. Imagine the Daleks managing to add Gallifreyan regeneration to themselves, as just a small example.
the problem with that, over the years, how many times has the Doctor been captured, I would suspect bio-data or blood samples of the Doctor while rare and hard to come by, is out there. I rather suspect it was a Ganger Doctor( either the one we saw, or a remote control deal) hence why the idea to burn the body. The other alternative, that wasn't gasoline, Rory, Amy and River just assumed it was, it could've been something else.


 

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Honestly it wasn't quite like that,
the Real Amy was controlling the Ganger Amy the exact same way( well sort of), as the people did on the island before the freak accident that gave them Sentience. The difference was, Amy didn't realize she was in remote control of the Ganger( hence why she kept seeing the Eye Patch lady. The other difference( and I hope they explain this at some point), is the unit she was using, was capable of remote controlling Ganger Amy across Time and Space, and even Pocket Universes. That strikes me of Time Lord lvl tech.
It should also be noted that Amy was in a more advanced form of the flesh,hence why the Doctor was exploring it's foundations.

Things like unwanted innate identity may have been ironed out later on.


 

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I also found it interesting that Ganger Jen made a duplicate with the intention of killing it. What the humans did out of ignorance and fear, she did with cold calculation. Her casual disregard for the life of both the original Jen and the duplicate make her a most chilling monster.


 

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the problem with that, over the years, how many times has the Doctor been captured, I would suspect bio-data or blood samples of the Doctor while rare and hard to come by, is out there. I rather suspect it was a Ganger Doctor( either the one we saw, or a remote control deal) hence why the idea to burn the body. The other alternative, that wasn't gasoline, Rory, Amy and River just assumed it was, it could've been something else.
The Master was also cremated after his death in The Sound of Drums.


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Did you just use "casual gamer" and "purpled-out warshade" in the same sentence?
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