FrameRate Crash on Leagues
One thing helped me a little. Leandro came up with it. i am really bad at linking forum posts though. Here it is in a nutshell I saved though:
bugged pohsyb about this for quite a while during Issue 12 beta, and this led to the "Hide Buff Numbers" option. In case you don't know about it, it's located in the General settings, and prevents the game from sending you the buff numbers, or any buff data at all.
See, the option is available in 3 locations: "Status Window" (the panel under your own health and endurance), "Group Window" (for teams) and "Pet Window". By default, the League window still transfers all the buff data and numbers to your client, and there's no way to disable it.
Originally Posted by Avatea
User Interface
The option to hide buff numbers will now function at the league level.
For the first time i was willing to try the Lambda warehouse after this. It wasnt great, still lagging, walking into walls, but it was better. Big teams still see lag though. Not sure if it will help, but Leandro is a clever fellow, worth a try.
With 3 ram sticks that equal 2gb each are you sure you're running in Dual Channel mode?
Don't be a mindless farm toon, we may need you on a non-soft SF someday. =)
With 3 ram sticks that equal 2gb each are you sure you're running in Dual Channel mode?
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I'm not much of a BIOS tweaker, so its possible that I am not where I could be with that.. I do believe its set to "auto" or whatever that option might be.
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One thing helped me a little. Leandro came up with it. i am really bad at linking forum posts though. Here it is in a nutshell I saved though:
bugged pohsyb about this for quite a while during Issue 12 beta, and this led to the "Hide Buff Numbers" option. In case you don't know about it, it's located in the General settings, and prevents the game from sending you the buff numbers, or any buff data at all. See, the option is available in 3 locations: "Status Window" (the panel under your own health and endurance), "Group Window" (for teams) and "Pet Window". By default, the League window still transfers all the buff data and numbers to your client, and there's no way to disable it. Originally Posted by Avatea User Interface The option to hide buff numbers will now function at the league level. For the first time i was willing to try the Lambda warehouse after this. It wasnt great, still lagging, walking into walls, but it was better. Big teams still see lag though. Not sure if it will help, but Leandro is a clever fellow, worth a try. |
I had pretty good luck this weekend (except for Hami raid), after turning these all off and basically removing EVERY chat tab I had and leaving the only incoming messages as System and actual chat channels that I actively use.
I really believe this is League related: during Hami, I was mapserved due to excessive ping (I have now noticed that ping goes through the roof when this is happening... pings of 1000+ when I am normally at 120-150), and when I logged back in my ping was 155 and my FPS was 45. Asked to get back in the league and as soon as I accepted the invite, my FPS plunged to 11 and my ping shot to 500+.
I examined these symptoms very closely on Monday doing a BAF. I was in the league early, but did note that my regular frame rate of 25 (I pulled my graphics back up) steadily decreased as more members were added to the league and my ping likewise increased. I did not totally crash out during this BAF, but my frame rate once actually in the trial was hovering around 6-8 and my ping in the 3-400's.
I have no idea what these symptoms mean, or how they are related.
I have eliminated, IMO, my video card by trying with a different one.
Resource monitor shows that I have plenty of available physical RAM most times, and COH is not using the pagefile 95% of the time, and even when other things are my drives are cruising along just fine. Network traffic is minimal. I don't use sound 90% of the time, so even if there is something wrong with the sound drivers (probable) it should not be the cause as I have disabled that card and used only onboard sound and still had the problem.
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With 3 ram sticks that equal 2gb each are you sure you're running in Dual Channel mode?
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No. This is not a memory issue. This is a "Leagues = Lags" issue.
A good internet connection and a fast machine will ameliorate it SLIGHTLY. But the fact is the current client-server setup simply cannot handle league play properly, leading to degraded framerates and lag (especially egregious tray lag).
No. This is not a memory issue. This is a "Leagues = Lags" issue.
A good internet connection and a fast machine will ameliorate it SLIGHTLY. But the fact is the current client-server setup simply cannot handle league play properly, leading to degraded framerates and lag (especially egregious tray lag). |
And I would not count tray lag as one of my issues. I don't have tray lag when this happens, because I can't do ANYTHING.
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Please research DUAL CHANNEL mode for your motherboard and ram.
Example:
If I have 4 sticks of ram that equal 1GB stick each/individually and one goes bad I surely will have 3GB left. Although most pcs will run the 3GB in single channel mode. However, if I remove one more and now use 2 sticks I'll have 2GB in DUAL CHANNEL mode which will raise my FPS considerably in games. WHICH WILL BE SUPERIOR to the 3GB
Matching sticks and the correct DIMM slots are they KEYS to running in channel modes correctly.
Good luck
Don't be a mindless farm toon, we may need you on a non-soft SF someday. =)
There is one issue with lag for me in BAF. The 'Escapee' part.. Other than that I do not suffer from LEAGUE LAG- even w/ most Ultra enabled w/ a 24" monitor
Don't be a mindless farm toon, we may need you on a non-soft SF someday. =)
Please research DUAL CHANNEL mode for your motherboard and ram.
Example: If I have 4 sticks of ram that equal 1GB stick each/individually and one goes bad I surely will have 3GB left. Although most pcs will run the 3GB in single channel mode. However, if I remove one more and now use 2 sticks I'll have 2GB in DUAL CHANNEL mode which will raise my FPS considerably in games. WHICH WILL BE SUPERIOR to the 3GB Matching sticks and the correct DIMM slots are they KEYS to running in channel modes correctly. Good luck |
You are suggesting that this article is thoroughly out of date, then?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...G,1705-11.html
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I did 3 trials this weekend. Thankfully I am done until 20.5 and the new mish tortures my poor old comp. I cannot run the warehouse in Lambda without crashing 90% time. When i am in the warehouse I have rubberbanding, and if I try to change direction it is like steering a cruise ship. After a long lag the character will start to turn. makes moving in there impossible. I also experience random crashes anywhere in the Lambda. I crashed during both Lambdas this weekend. Got my emps, one common, one thread. Rare on the BAF, altho the team seemed to be doing horrid. Anyways, the Lambda hates my comp. I do not expect they will ever fix it. (see Valley of Lag in the ITF for my reasoning) If your comp hates the Lambda, I doubt there is anything you can do. From my experience, once they publish a mission/task force on live, that is it. They may change it years later, like the Posi, but do not expect running tweaks. A new comp may help you, but as was pointed out further up in the post, it may not. The Lambda was written by somebody with a custom machine sitting 15 feet from the game mainframe on a hard connection. It was never tested for the issues that we are seeing live. My advice? Do what I do, get the incarnate experience that you need (maybe 10-12 torurous Lambdas?) to open both slots, and then run BAFs. The problem for me is less sever on a BAF. Heck, the 16 person BAFs are almost cool, if repetitiously boring as heck. If you are having this problem on BAFs? ach, to think there is someone out there suffering through the trials with a worse comp problem than me. I am very sorry. Our only hope is that in writing the new mission for 20.5 they looked at these issues that have come up on the i20 content, and corrected for that. AND that we can get rewards thru the new mission so as to avoid doing the Lambda which is not written as well.
My problems are not the same as yours Blue Centurion.. though I commiserate.
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I spoke to the lead Alien and he recommends that you upppercut yourself and take that 3rd memory stick and melt it down into an aluminum hat to wear immediately.
This will solve all your problems.. Simple fix.
Don't be a mindless farm toon, we may need you on a non-soft SF someday. =)
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Wondering if I am alone in this bizarrely persistent issue.
I normally get 45-70 FPS, depending on how many players are visible on my screen (it can drop lower if it gets busy). But when I get on a League, especially a big one, and the fur really starts to fly...my FPS crashes to <1, hovering in the .6-.8 range, and then magically restores at random points (FPS does kinda suck in general when on a league, down to 5-12 FPS).
I just recently came back to the game after a long hiatus, caught the tail end of I19 and the launch of I20.
I do not recall having these issues before I20 and the advent of leagues.
I first recall it happening on a Hamidon raid with a very large league... though at that time I did not understand the specific symptoms that I now do.
I have been working with support on this issue for almost 2 months, and nothing has worked or worked for long to resolve the issue.
I don't have my exact system specs here, but a quick rundown:
quad core AMD maybe 3ghz?
6gb RAM (used to be 8 but one of them turned bad on me)
Win7 64bit Home Premium
BFG Nvidia gtx260 with 1gb
2 SATA drives, one for Windows one with most everything else
In working to resolve this issue these things have been tried:
updated drivers for everything possible
double checked chat logging (its off)
removed combat msgs from in game chat tabs
gfx at lowest possible settings and everything in between
turned off sound
disabled sound card altogether
defragged hard drives
uninstall game client and reinstall
exclude COH from MSE scanning
totally kill MSE process while running game
tried different video card
bought new power supply
Running out of options on things to try, and running out of patience. Its getting worse... this never happened before on a Lambda run, and it happened just the other night post patch (might be relevant, might not be relevant).
The latest thing support has asked for and that I supplied last night was a screenshot of memory resources while the game was running (during the surge on Pinnacle, with my frame rate totally tanked).
It didn't show much... COH was using 1.4-1.6 GB of physical memory... there wasn't much left over, but the PF wasn't really doing much at the same time.
Ideas, suggestions, commiserations, other victims of this?
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