Double crits on Stalker?


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I've recently returned to CoH after a long break and started a electric melee Stalker. One thing I have noticed that I don't remember happening before is being able to double crit targets with my Stalker. It usually seems to happen on a team. I also recall one time getting a double AS on a purple boss and one shotting him from full health. Can anyone explain how this is happening?


 

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Originally Posted by ElysianValkyrie View Post
I've recently returned to CoH after a long break and started a electric melee Stalker. One thing I have noticed that I don't remember happening before is being able to double crit targets with my Stalker. It usually seems to happen on a team. I also recall one time getting a double AS on a purple boss and one shotting him from full health. Can anyone explain how this is happening?
Lightning Rod is a pseudo pet and it crits from hide but it doesn't break hide. So you can still crit with thunderstrike. Makes Electric Melee on Stalkers very nice.

Also, there is a PvP bug where placating then AS sometimes gives dual crits, but that's obviously not what you're talking about.


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It can happen, I think - there are two ways for a stalker to crit.

Hidden status, which gives something like a 50% chance to crit on AoEs, and the team crit rate, which is 10%+3% per nearby teammate.


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Whats happening is the non-hide chance triggering while hidden, or placated (as in not quite hidden, but close enough)

Basically stalkers have the same crit chance scrappers do, with 100% crit chance while hidden and right after placate. If the stars align just right, you can get a double crit from a placate->attack and said attack getting the 10% (or higher depending on teammates) chance for crit, and the 100% (from placate) chance for crit triggering at the same time. Its pretty rare, but when it happens against tough mobs, its fun stuff.


 

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Stalkers don't have the same crit chance.


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Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
Stalkers don't have the same crit chance.
as per paragonwiki.com

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Criticals

Stalkers cause a great deal of additional damage through critical hits. The exact chances of a critical vary greatly with the situation and the power used. Stalker criticals do double damage except in one case which we'll get to in a moment.

Most Stalker single-target attacks automatically critical against any target if the Stalker is Hidden. If the Stalker isn't Hidden and he's attacking a PvE enemy, his chance of critting is 10% + 3% per teammate within 30'. In PvP, most un-Hidden Stalker single-target attacks can only crit if the target is Held or Slept, and do so 20% of the time, but a few get criticals 10%-15% of the time regardless of whether the target is mezzed.
Scrappers get 10% for minion/Lts, 15% for bosses, stalkers get a flat 10%, with an increased 3% for each ally in range, its basically the same thing, which is exactly what i said, basically the same


 

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Originally Posted by Arbegla View Post
as per paragonwiki.com



Scrappers get 10% for minion/Lts, 15% for bosses, stalkers get a flat 10%, with an increased 3% for each ally in range, its basically the same thing, which is exactly what i said, basically the same
Actually, 5% for Minions, 10% for Lietenant and higher, as per their inherent. (Stalkers are a 10% +3%/extra party member regardless of the opponent rank)