Ice/Dark/Elec build advice


-Perfect_Predator-

 

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http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/downl...A1F41796C3E8EF

There's my build. I would like everyone to look at this and tell me what needs to be changed and all. I was going for defence health and damage all in one, and I'm new to mids. I usually don't spend too much time staring at the computer screen for all of the affects and seeing whether it's effective or not, but oh well. What I do whenever I make a build is I look at the set effects and how many slots I have and depending on whether or not those effects are even worth my time I determine which is better.

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Thanks to all who reply, Stryke


 

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I would use something like this. I pretty much got you softcap S/L and got a decent amount of reacharge. I should mention I am not an expert on /dark so some of the slotting is probably off and I also left fluffy unslotted as I have no idea how to slot him and there are just so many diffrent ways to slot him, someone should be able to give you some good tips on /dark though.


Also take a look at this guide Silas wrote...pretty much an epic thread.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=196722


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Hi to the original poster!

Welcome to the Mids designer, a fun and addictive place to be.

In /Dark, you really don't want to skip Darkest Night, Shadowfall and Dark Servant, especially Darkest Night and Dark Servant, who many consider the best pet in the game.

I also noticed that many of your sets were the pvp sets (usually listed last in the set listings) and these cost astronomical amounts of inf, often hundreds of millions of inf per IO.

Also the Hami-O's you have in Combat Jumping and especially Hasten aren't really helping, three regular recharge IOs in Hasten will help you more and cost less.

To the second poster: A nice looking build, great defense, but In my opinion you don't want to skip Fearsome Stare, it's probably the most important talent in the tree, and the one most /dark open with on a group of enemies.

I will post my Ice/Dark build tonight when I get home, but even with SOs Ice/Dark can be pretty nice. My build aims for S/L/E defense, and enough recharge to get Hasten as close as I can to permanent.

Take care,
Rich


 

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Ill be waiting for that build when you get home I just started back on my ice/rad recently


@Shock n' Tank
My 50s: Perfect Predator - Claws/SR Scrapper, Heavy Static - SS/Elec Brute, BlackLce - Ice/Dark Corruptor, Prickles' - Spine/WP Scrapper, Arbiter Kaverius - SOA Crab, Frost Hood - Ice/Rad Controller.

 

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Mind if I ask why'd you'd go for //Elec? If going w/ hero epics I would suggest going with //Dark, but the PPP's offer quite a lot for a corr. Especially considering how you can have Fluffy, a perma PPP pet w/ decent recharge, and the Lore pets when need be. I do not really play Corrs, but I am currently loving my Dark/Ice/Dark Defender.

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Oh, and I just checked out your original build from the OP. Wow.

I would drop Frost Breath, long animation time, just a cone, you're almost better off just waiting for Ice Storm to recharge, especially with a decent recharging build.

Drop Blizzard, I've played Ice Blast with and without it, and it seems to me that staying in the fight w/o the downtime from the nuke seems to outweigh the damage. And Ice Storm feels powerful enough IMO.

Darkest Night, Shadow Fall, and Dark Servant are MUST HAVES. I can see where the argument that you don't need DN due to the fact that Fearsome Stare does about the same -ToHit, but I would argue there really isn't a better power available to take over DN. Shadow Fall is basically beefed up Maneuvers with Stealth and Resistance thrown in. Fluffy, well Fluffy rules, half the time I don't need to heal myself if I'm near him, and his debuffs allow me to play way more aggressively as I do not need to actively debuff enemies to stay alive.

Medicine pool is a complete waste on a Dark Miasma character. You have THE most powerful heal, that happens to be AOE around the caster(as opposed to the other big heal in Transfusion being around the target). You also have THE BEST REZ IN THE GAME. Well it's actually a massive -Regen debuff, that happens to rez and is AOE AUTO HIT! Oh yeah, it does some damage and stuns too. And doesn't require any dead allies to use. It also rezzes more than one fallen ally if used for that purpose, so two rezzes are more than redundant on a Dark Miasma.

Acrobatics is nice and everything, but it does use endurance on a character w/ a few toggles to begin with. Especially now w/ Clarion available, you don't really need the hold protection as you can get total mez protect. I only mention this as a given because you've got billions slotted there in PvP IO's and will assume you have some assets and plan to invest some time into this one.

You really don't need both SJ and SS, IMO. The way the game works now and how easy it is to get temp travels like the Raptor Pack and the GvE Jump Pack, Super Speed is usually enough for any toon, barring concepts.

I would suggest //Dark Mastery for perma Soul Drain as well as Dark Embrace and Dark Consumption. Another good route would be //Soul Mastery for Power Boost, Dark Embrace, and the Fortunata Mistress pet(perma'd). Mu wouldn't be bad if you wished to keep Power Sink-I would stick with the shield and the pet here as well. Leviathan is ok, you can get a cone Immobilize similar to Tenebrous Tentacles, allowing you to sort of play like a Dark/Dark with Ice Storm. This would also allow you to make up for the lost cone from Frost Breath(School of Sharks would serve you better in controlling than Frost Breath). Here I would take the shield and either Hibernate or the Pet. Leviathan would not be my choice. Also I feel that //Mace Mastery is a bit overrated and overused for Dark Miasma. I know the survival numbers were much easier to get on my Defender than they are on a Corr, but Dark brings so much survival just by doing your job, that soft-cap isn't really as big of a deal as it might be on some other builds. Between Fluffy, Darkest Night if it's a tough battle, and Fearsome Stare if you have time to use it preemptively do tons to keep you from ever even getting hit, and if you do get hit, making it not hurt as much. Maneuvers, Shadow Fall, CJ, Tough, Weave and the APP/PPP Shield help a lot too!

I've played Dark/Ice/Dark, D3 and Cold/Ice/Dark to 50, as well Traps/Ice to about 40 and countless other lowbies with either Dark Miasma or Ice Blast, and those are my tips to a better deathbringer!


 

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How about this build... Any good?

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@Shock n' Tank
My 50s: Perfect Predator - Claws/SR Scrapper, Heavy Static - SS/Elec Brute, BlackLce - Ice/Dark Corruptor, Prickles' - Spine/WP Scrapper, Arbiter Kaverius - SOA Crab, Frost Hood - Ice/Rad Controller.

 

Posted

Hi Perfect,

Sorry I didn't get a chance to post last night, our work place has been without AC for the past three days and I feel like a baked potato lol
My brain is just craving coolness

I just glanced real quickly at your build, definitely closer to mine. One thing I did notice, on Ice Storm and Frost Breath, Impeded Swiftness proc will get you the same amount of extra damage and cost a lot less than the Javelin Volley proc.

Will try to drum into my heat shrivelled brain to post build tonight. Bloodbath has also given excellent advice above.

Take care,
Rich


 

Posted

Predator that build is still pretty bad, TBH. It's not just the slotting, you've made some big power selection mistakes. First and foremost, Stealth, Grant Invisibility and Invisibility are pretty much pointless. You cannot run either toggle power while Shadow Fall is on, and Shadow Fall is a much better power than both. Grant Invisibility is also redundant as Shadow Fall is AOE. You need to work in Boxing, Tough, Weave and Maneuvers. Maneuvers is more important than Assault, but by dropping Blizzard (see my previous post) and possibly Frost Breath you should be able to keep Assault as well as take Vengeance. Having all of these powers allows one to get the recharge very easily from the one slot LOTG 7.5s and they all happen to be useful, as opposed to the whole Concealment Pool being a waste.


 

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I don't know if you can afford what I slotted, but if you can't let me know and I will dim that build down a bit.

This build is a Tank in every sense of the word except you don't have a taunt. 1550 HP if you take the time to get the Accolades. about 26% Defense to all, as well as all the -ToHit that comes with Dark. Almost 49% Res to S/L/Nrg. Big Heals.

You've got controls in -Spd and Stuns from the Rez.

Tons of damage from the AoE's, even a nice melee attack.

Also note that I slotted Spiritual Core Paragon, I make optimized builds, I can't help it



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Your build was a tad to expensive for me at the moment, I just resubscribed a day ago...

This is my revamp of your build

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@Shock n' Tank
My 50s: Perfect Predator - Claws/SR Scrapper, Heavy Static - SS/Elec Brute, BlackLce - Ice/Dark Corruptor, Prickles' - Spine/WP Scrapper, Arbiter Kaverius - SOA Crab, Frost Hood - Ice/Rad Controller.

 

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Originally Posted by -Perfect_Predator- View Post
Your build was a tad to expensive for me at the moment, I just resubscribed a day ago...

This is my revamp of your build

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That looks pretty good, it needs some stuff moved around however. If you look at where it says corrupter on mids and then go right...click "view active sets" once you click that you will see that you have quite a few slots that have no effect as they have been capped off.


 

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I am not going to rework that build for you this time, as you did a pretty good dumb-down yourself. But do as Deathleader said; go in and find what has bonuses have been used too many times. I'll give you a hint, you won't need 2 of the 2.5% Recovery Bonuses and you really don't need to 4 slot LOTG's, the reason I had four slots before was the HP bonuses from 3 Shield Walls and then the LOTG 7.5. If you're not using the PvP IO's just go with 3 Slots of LOTG. That should open up a lot for you.

After you tweak that build, I'll make my own version for you again.

This is fun I check my phone all day hoping you've fixed your build/took advice.


 

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Well I have done quite a few builds myself... I just recently resubd so I'm a little dumb atm... Here's the rework of the rework

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Also, i know there are still some bad bonuses, i just left them as I didn't really have a need to change them...


@Shock n' Tank
My 50s: Perfect Predator - Claws/SR Scrapper, Heavy Static - SS/Elec Brute, BlackLce - Ice/Dark Corruptor, Prickles' - Spine/WP Scrapper, Arbiter Kaverius - SOA Crab, Frost Hood - Ice/Rad Controller.

 

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Anyone got any other builds for this?


@Shock n' Tank
My 50s: Perfect Predator - Claws/SR Scrapper, Heavy Static - SS/Elec Brute, BlackLce - Ice/Dark Corruptor, Prickles' - Spine/WP Scrapper, Arbiter Kaverius - SOA Crab, Frost Hood - Ice/Rad Controller.