Taking down Trapdoor as an AR/DEV Blaster
By
Adeon Hawkwood,
Posted on: 2011-05-15 17:40 in Player Questions
If finding even a single extra player to help isn't an option:
1) Take time out to annihilate his bifurcations, when they happen, so that his regen isn't insane.
2) Try and lure him into the lava. He goes down fast if you can keep him there.
20+ mines on a single pile. I haven't yet met an EB that could take that burst of damage. 
(granted some need a little coaxing to actually step into the area, mostly those EBs who just blast from range. use cloaking device for stealth, and place the mines at the top of the ramp. Swallow a few purples/oranges aggro him, then sit at the bottom of the ramp. He jogs to the top to get LOS, and BOOM! Instant crippled and talkative trapdoor!)
NOTE: This method is not for the impatient. It works, but the mines take FOREVER to set up.
"My inner mind has become a reality-cracking overgod. He torments me! Help!"
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Oh my...the sheer cunning...makes me want to and levels up a /devices toon or respec it back into my /traps Defender just so I can have said character dance madly around Trapdoor, cackling and asking him 'How he likes it!' |
Originally Posted by The Grim Heaper
20+ mines on a single pile. I haven't yet met an EB that could take that burst of damage.
(granted some need a little coaxing to actually step into the area, mostly those EBs who just blast from range. use cloaking device for stealth, and place the mines at the top of the ramp. Swallow a few purples/oranges aggro him, then sit at the bottom of the ramp. He jogs to the top to get LOS, and BOOM! Instant crippled and talkative trapdoor!) NOTE: This method is not for the impatient. It works, but the mines take FOREVER to set up. |
In the end I got my Alpha through the trials then eventually went back with my 3rd tier Lore pets and booted him around in no time. I would have just dropped d the mission but didn't see that option appear.
Don't forget the purples. But yes, lava helps, and taking out the bifurcations (which are nice and squishy) is a must.
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20+ is probably overkill, but I've never really tried fewer, I always just keep placing them until the first one times out - using a combination of hasten and geas to get as many out as possible.
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Originally Posted by Darkscar
Oh my...the sheer cunning...makes me want to and levels up a /devices toon or respec it back into my /traps Defender just so I can have said character dance madly around Trapdoor, cackling and asking him 'How he likes it!'
In the end I got my Alpha through the trials then eventually went back with my 3rd tier Lore pets and booted him around in no time. I would have just dropped d the mission but didn't see that option appear. |
"My inner mind has become a reality-cracking overgod. He torments me! Help!"
I did a mini-guide for this a while back.
AR/Dev should be easy. Buy Purples and Reds from Ramiel plus a couple of BFs just in case. Eat 3 or 4 Purples to cap your Def and, say 4 Reds, then knock him into the lava with Buckshot and/or M30 Grenade, jump down to the ground outside the lava and shoot him full of holes, using KB to put him back in the lava every time he climbs out. Renew your Purples if it takes more than 60 seconds, which it shouldn't. Ignore /Dev except Web Grenade (Edit: this isn't necessary, but if you can Immob him in the lava that's great, unfortunately you'll have about 10s where he'll be lose and protected from KB - it may just be better to stand on the lip of the lava pool so he stands in it trying to attack you), don't bother to chase the clones as you should be able to finish him off without worrying about them.
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Yeah, I believe I successfully did while following guide back then when I eventually came back to alpha stuff with a new toon and found they'd upped Trapdoor's unpleasantness.|
Originally Posted by Kosmos
I did a mini-guide for this a while back.
AR/Dev should be easy. Buy Purples and Reds from Ramiel plus a couple of BFs just in case. Eat 3 or 4 Purples to cap your Def and, say 4 Reds, then knock him into the lava with Buckshot and/or M30 Grenade, jump down to the ground outside the lava and shoot him full of holes, using KB to put him back in the lava every time he climbs out. Renew your Purples if it takes more than 60 seconds, which it shouldn't. Ignore /Dev except Web Grenade (Edit: this isn't necessary, but if you can Immob him in the lava that's great, unfortunately you'll have about 10s where he'll be lose and protected from KB - it may just be better to stand on the lip of the lava pool so he stands in it trying to attack you), don't bother to chase the clones as you should be able to finish him off without worrying about them. |
Sadly this /traps is a Dual Pistols Defender, something I do enjoy but am more than willing to admit it occasionally lacks under some conditions, like this one.
Even when I was keeping him in the lava using knockback (ammo toggle off, vet reward blackwand and epic pool Thunder Strike) I was doing so little actual damage that he would eventually leap out and away and i'd start over again. Made me recall why I used to help others so many times using a couple of scrappers and a archer/mm blaster who were alpha'd back during the first few months of it.
For any Blaster I mostly just recommend (as others have said) stocking up on purple and red inspirations and, if possible, immobilizing him in the lava. In pretty much any Blaster vs. Elite Boss fight the trick with the Blaster is not the application of damage but staying alive long enough to use it. Immobilizing him helps a lot with this since he can't use his powerful melee attacks.
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Well the big advice I'd give with Traps is to make sure you set down a Poison Gas Trap and try to keep him in the cloud for the duration. That should neuter his regen enough for you to take him out. I'd still recommend destroying the clones since they also buff his damage resistance. Ideally with a Trapper you'd also want to immobilize him but for a Traps/Dual Pistol Defender I think power choices are likely to be tight enough that you can't really take Web Grenade.
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Originally Posted by Darkscar
Sadly this /traps is a Dual Pistols Defender, something I do enjoy but am more than willing to admit it occasionally lacks under some conditions, like this one.
Even when I was keeping him in the lava using knockback (ammo toggle off, vet reward blackwand and epic pool Thunder Strike) I was doing so little actual damage that he would eventually leap out and away and i'd start over again. |
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I always stock up on insps...i've annoyed teams before who've scoffed at my nipping over to grab some but i've always found them to be a useful tool. Must admit I don't normally carry around too many reds...next time I run trap i'll give that a try, cheers!|
Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
For any Blaster I mostly just recommend (as others have said) stocking up on purple and red inspirations and, if possible, immobilizing him in the lava. In pretty much any Blaster vs. Elite Boss fight the trick with the Blaster is not the application of damage but staying alive long enough to use it. Immobilizing him helps a lot with this since he can't use his powerful melee attacks.
Well the big advice I'd give with Traps is to make sure you set down a Poison Gas Trap and try to keep him in the cloud for the duration. That should neuter his regen enough for you to take him out. I'd still recommend destroying the clones since they also buff his damage resistance. Ideally with a Trapper you'd also want to immobilize him but for a Traps/Dual Pistol Defender I think power choices are likely to be tight enough that you can't really take Web Grenade. |
I did try the Poison Gas Trap, as well as Acid and Caltrops. Even an Envenomed Dagger. Maybe I just kept having bad runs of luck. Yeah, my epic I went with Electric not Munitions..wanted the Armour and the Thunder Strike was a pleasant surprise.
Likely I just mucked around too much and let too many clones build up. If i'd had any sense i'd havve buzzed off and come back when Trap had resettled himself and taken out the clones one at a time. Anyway, ty again i'll give your advice a try next time.
I've had my head handed to me a couple dozen times now when I try to defeat Trapdoor. Anyone have any advice or strategies on how to take him down solo?