I have never dipped into Concealment for improving Hide. I have never needed it. If you really want to improve hide, get one of the stealth IOs.
No one pays attention to me, cause I listen to the voices in my head.
I mostly play PvE (almost entirely) so I may not even need it... but for the sake of discussion roughly how much would one of those IOs be? I am working on a budget of a few million. Probably not enough?
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If you play only PvE, then you have absolutely no need for the Concealment pool as your 150ft maximum is enough for every foe in the game that doesn't explicitly and completely ignore stealth effects (most ambushers, Rikti Drones, Rularuu eyeballs, Knives of Artemis; have to be careful around Longbow Eagles and certain flying Cabal witches as they have code that makes them back off and try to keep a certain distance - that can make them aware of you, if you're close enough). There aren't any known foes (to me, anyways) with enough +perception to bring them to 150ft or higher and therefore nullify your stealth.
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Originally Posted by Dark_Inferno
I mostly play PvE (almost entirely) so I may not even need it... but for the sake of discussion roughly how much would one of those IOs be? I am working on a budget of a few million. Probably not enough?
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I agree with JD Gumby.
For PvE only, Hide is enough. Any PvE foes that can see through Hide
will also see you even if you're fully capped for stealth.
Now, for PvP, it's a different kettle of fish.
You need 3 Stealth Powers to reach the Stealth cap - the common way
is through Hide, Stealth (pool), and a Stealth IO. At that point, you can
only be seen in 5 cases:
1: By High perception Widows (and Banes?) who have a higher perception
cap than all other AT's. IIRC that's in the neighborhood of 100-150 ft
or so..
2: By High perception players (capped) within 10 ft.
3: By somebody standing next to Police Drone(s). I'm not sure what that
distance is, but it's pretty far.
4: By anybody if Hide is broken (ie. thru an attack or from taking damage)
5: By anybody (for a brief moment) when you first get within game drawing
distance (ie. the point where the game adds you as an object to the
scene). In that case, you'll blip in for just a second, and then the game
will realize you're stealthed and you'll fade out quick.
So, for PvP, the short answer is take Stealth from the pool.
Now, since we're in the Stalker forum, I'm going to add that I also take
Invisibility. Why? Point number 4 above. If you attack somebody,
*everybody* else will jump in to gank you (that's pretty standard).
That damage will prevent Hide from activating. However, Invisibility is
unsuppressable, so at the point where you've decided to bug out, flip
Invisiblity on (note that it precludes Stealth - only one of the two can
be active at a time). if you're trying to escape, Invis will work when Hide
will not. You're still taking damage, of course, and you can't attack, so
it's purely defensive, but in PvP, it has saved me many times...
And, of course, if you're going to PvP, you'll definitely want Phase Shift
too (unless you enjoy dying a lot). 
The key point is that PvP and PvE are *very* different, and consequently,
your power picks differ for each as well.
Regards,
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Which power from the Concealment pool do people take to improve Hide? Stealth, or Invisibility? (Stealth would be better so that I only need to spend one power.)
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