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Stick with it. It is definitely a late-blooming set, but well worth it |
Originally Posted by Amy_Amp
I actually thought about how I had a DB/elec scrapper and then wondered if I should have gone brute instead. I think the fact that I could pick only the attacks I wanted to end up with versus taking one to help build fury was what sealed the deal. I can't recall when it was made because the placement of Energize was likely a reason as well. I didn't have an AoE based build on that server so it fills that role. Ok, so I made a Spines/elec later on...
 The DB/elec is 32 and I have only deleted one level 30 so far, so I just don't feel like axing something for the sake of being slightly more uber when it's been fun so far. |
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Nothing should really be tearing a top end Invuln apart.|
Originally Posted by Cyber_naut
How good is inv vs. the new stuff? I would think pairing dm with almost every other secondary would be superior to inv for various reasons, but i've only played one inv a while ago, on a brute before the inv buffs, but I remember the exotic stuff tearing me apart. I think I over slotted run on sentence making...
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And Rebirth adds a second heal as well as passive regeneration better than a fully slotted Fast Healing.
That's good stuff.
You have the ability to cap or nearly cap your HP regardless if Scrapper or Brute, for the Brute example you might have lower resistances to exotics vs. resistance based sets but you will most likely have around 50% more HP (2k HP or so for FA/Ela/DA and 3k to 3200 for Invuln)
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Originally Posted by mauk2
Much better defenses
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Right, basically what makes a brute stronger defensively then a scrapper is the bigger hp total, and to a small extent, higher res caps. The res cap only really applies to Fire for /fire and energy for /electric. But the higher hps is jut better for everything, plus anything with regen or healing gets that much more. |
Originally Posted by Deus_Otiosus
Nothing should really be tearing a top end Invuln apart.
And Rebirth adds a second heal as well as passive regeneration better than a fully slotted Fast Healing. That's good stuff. You have the ability to cap or nearly cap your HP regardless if Scrapper or Brute, for the Brute example you might have lower resistances to exotics vs. resistance based sets but you will most likely have around 50% more HP (2k HP or so for FA/Ela/DA and 3k to 3200 for Invuln) Their base resistances and defenses are the same as Scrappers. |
Basically I figure /fire /electric /wp are better on brutes, though for somewhat differing reasons for each. /SD is better on scrapper. /Invuln and /DA are slightly stronger on brutes, but not so much as to make a huge difference. /SR is somewhat even.
This is countered by the various primaries that are better on scrapper then brutes, so it's often a matter of preference. Just depends on what primary/secondary combos you are looking at. Obviously if you want Katana or BS you go scrapper, SM/SS/WM etc you go brute.
For example, DM/Electric could go both ways IMO, depends on what you want more, Soul Drain is better on a scrapper then a brute, but Siphon Life and Energize are better on a brute, plus 90% energy res is nice on the current iTrials. So a scrapper DM/Electric will do a bit more damage, while a brute will be somewhat tougher. Both differences will be minor.
1) If pairing with kat/broadsword for lethal and melee defense
2) You can pair it with Shadow Meld
3) If you go musculature radial paragon to make powersink more potent (sapping 94% of endurance from everything short of an EB/AV in one shot? yes please), then the damage buff portion of that benefits a scrapper a bunch more than it does a tank or brute. Really if it weren't for this one I would have made my db/elec a brute.
My level 50+++ kat/elec scrapper is SO'd and still creams the trials
My level 50+ IO'd db/elec scrapper was soloing weapons cache and containment chamber spawns in lam yesterday and today. I kid you not.