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As far as I know Lambda and the BAF don't do the -4 penalty.
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Originally Posted by Dragonhawk
If you arent Alpha slotted you automatically get a -4 lvl adjustment while in any Pretorian instance (Apex, Tin Mage, BAF, Lamb)...
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Incarnate trials don't do that -4 shift thing, and you can unlock and make your alpha with the new trials as well. (Scroll down in the recipe section, you'll find recipes for alpha powers that use threads.)
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
Warning: This poster likes to play Devil's Advocate.
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This is correct.
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Originally Posted by Shadow State
As far as I know Lambda and the BAF don't do the -4 penalty.
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I just wish they'd remove the damn inf cost from the shard->thread conversion. Thanks for giving me stuff in regular content that is 100% useless to me unless I pay cold hard cash to upgrade it. Gee, great idea...
Oh, wait.
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Originally Posted by Zwillinger
GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon
NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Really? I still see plenty of those going on.
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Originally Posted by Dragonhawk
Already it is much more dificult to get a run going from any of the previous shard run TFs (ITF, STF, LGTF,...), and this will only get worse as time goes on.
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
With the new trials in I20 and the new comodity of Incarnate Threads, instead of the Shards used to unlock/construct our Alpha abilities, it has added a new dilema to the game. It will soon be very difficult if not impossible to get an alt done up as an incarnate. Already it is much more dificult to get a run going from any of the previous shard run TFs (ITF, STF, LGTF,...), and this will only get worse as time goes on. So anyone developing a late blooming alt wont have any viable way to set their toon up as an incarnate, even if it becomes their new favorite.
I know you can construct the Alpha abilities with threads, which can allow someone to reach their T4 if they are only at T3, but it doesnt help those who dont have a toon even Alpha slotted yet. If you arent Alpha slotted you automatically get a -4 lvl adjustment while in any Pretorian instance (Apex, Tin Mage, BAF, Lamb), so nobody is going to take a person into a trial that isnt Alpha slotted and at this point would probably be very reluctant to take someone who isnt lvl shifted up to +1 yet.
I have a twofold solution to address this issue.
1) Cut the number of shards needed for your Alpha (only) in half so that common components would only take 2 shards to make it rather than 4. Keep however the Notice of the Well as a T3/T4 component.
2) Make shards tradable, that way people will still do the TFs as farms and people can outfit alts at any point in the future by buying shards from Wentworths. Keep the Notice of the Well as nontradable however.
This should allow people to get any alts caught up to the pack for the future, but still have a builtin time constraint by keeping the NotW items nontradable and only attainable by the weekly Strike runs.
Dragonhawk (lvl 50 fire/energy blaster)
Flamefrost (lvl 50 fire/ice blaster)
'Snowflake (lvl 50 ice/dev blaster)
Dragons' Flame (lvl 50 fire/fire tank)
Psyshock (lvl 30 Rad/Psi defender)