My new favorite.. Soldier/Bane!


blueruckus

 

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I've been reading a lot on Wolf Soldier builds and I couldn't really understand why. Why would you want a Soldier when you can branch out.

Well, recently I respec my Bane's 2nd build and tried to focus on just using Single Shot, Burst, Bayonet (occassionally when a boss gets close to me), Venom and Frag Grenade. Instead of taking Tough, I only took double Assault and Maneuver. Defense-wise, he is weaker than my Bane build but he also doesn't melee much so I think it evens out in the end for survival.


Last night I finally got 85% of the sets that I planned for him and I took him out for a real test. I started a +3x8 ITF run with 5 other friends. Oh man... was he good! I can't believe how fast Soldier is shooting. I thought my Fortunata already shoots fast but this Soldier just cycle attacks nonstop.


This Soldier build is not "flashy" like Crab's energy attacks or Bane's "smashing" mace but he is really strong in debuffing and quick shooting.

His focus is going to be resistance debuff. I already bought two AH procs which I'll put in both Single Shot and Burst. That's 40% chance to reduce another 20%. And I have Surveillance and Venom Grenade. I also put chance for smashing and energy in Frag Grenade for more "burst" aoe damage which has worked really well.


Now I can see the attraction in Soldier. I didn't understand before because when I first made Bane/Crab, I just wanted to branch out as soon as I hit 24. I didn't really think about the potential of Soldier until recently.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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Try something like this: Wlyfen - Lucia 1a (Build Link) - Soft capped to all vectors, cheap, can melee or shoot. It's a good all around build, but not the best at anything. A good alternative is Shatter Armor if you want more -res and melee a less. I liked the faster recharge on shatter for when I get in close, but I really do miss the -res.

You could add Shatter Armor by dropping the hold, swapping Crowd Control to Erradication, Shatter Armor to Touch of Death, and dropping one of (Assault, Vengeance, TT:Assault) With Shatter Armor (Build Link)

Or dig through the various huntsman builds here: Google Docs Build Archives (A google docs or gmail account may be required)


 

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Originally Posted by Jibikao View Post
Now I can see the attraction in Soldier. I didn't understand before because when I first made Bane/Crab, I just wanted to branch out as soon as I hit 24. I didn't really think about the potential of Soldier until recently.
I substantially agree with you that a Huntsman build is really awesome for the Soldier side of VEAT. It's just non-stop Run 'n' Gun when you stick to the Soldier attacks.


It's the end. But the moment has been prepared for ...

 

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Yeah, I run a crab but I use all gun attacks with the exception of Suppression. The crab attacks take too long to animate for the most part and have no real advantage over the gun attacks.


Currently on Virtue:
Jinrazuo - Crab Spider

RWZ All-Pylon Solo Run

 

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Originally Posted by Redlynne View Post
I substantially agree with you that a Huntsman build is really awesome for the Soldier side of VEAT. It's just non-stop Run 'n' Gun when you stick to the Soldier attacks.
I didn't know they buff Single Shot. It used to take 1.5s to shoot? Single Shot now takes 0.9s which, I believe, is the fastest range attack in the game?

The thing with rifle attack is that the bullets travel almost "instantly" to the target; whereas Fort's range attacks need time to travel (like Gloom and Subdue). Dominate is instant.

The key thing is to have enough +recharge so you feel like you can keep shooting.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.

 

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Burst is on a 1 sec activation as well so getting high recharge and chaining single shot and burst becomes a fairly decent ST setup.


Currently on Virtue:
Jinrazuo - Crab Spider

RWZ All-Pylon Solo Run

 

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Originally Posted by blueruckus View Post
Burst is on a 1 sec activation as well so getting high recharge and chaining single shot and burst becomes a fairly decent ST setup.
Yeah for an 8s attack, Burst is darn fast. In fact, both Venom and Bayonet only take 1.67s but they feel like 2.67s when you cycle them just because Burst and Single are so fast. lol

In comparison, I think Crabs Fang takes 2s.


What's left is to normalize all Assassin Strikes and improve Stalker's old sets (Claw, MA and EM)! You don't need to bring back the missing PbAoE attack. You just need to make the existing ones better! For example, make Slice a WIDER and LONGER cone.