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The way you wrote up this question is somewhat confusing. I'm guessing that you are asking if the IOs that provide a pet buff like the Sovereign Right +10% Resistance to Pets proc works for Controllers? Is that it?|
Originally Posted by SlackTech
Firstly, as I know it will be asked (or may be referred to snarkily), I did try to use the search engine to find an appropriate forum thread, but couldn't find one. This might be due to my extraordinary (super?) ability to be incompetent with using the forum search engine.
Secondly, I have tried researching Paragonwiki and City of Data, but couldn't find the answer/s I seek. So, it leads here. Since GR, I can finally roll trollers and play red-side (thank you, GR!). I have two now, and throughly love playing them. However, on both character's builds, I have used 2-3 (don't have the builds here with me) of the pet damage IO bonuses (and the Sov proc) . I've never had need to question the usage of these before, as it's clear that MM henchmen get the bonuses (and this is easily confirmed by checking the combat attributes for the henchmen/pets). As I can't check pet combat attributes on a troller, and the character's combat attributes don't seem to mention it, I ask what I hope is a simple question - do these bonuses work on troller and villain PPP pets (that is, non-MM pets/henchmen)? Obviously if they don't, I'll do a new build up for each character, rip the IOs out and put them in SG base. Again, apologies if this has been answered previously, and thanks in advance for any information. |
The answer, if that is the question, is: Yes, the Sovereign Right +10% Resistance to Pets, the Expediant Reinforcement +10% Resistance to pets, Edict of the Master 5% Defense Bonus for Pets and the Call to Arms +5% Defense bonus for Pets all work on Controller Pets (except Phantom Army, who is unbuffable and invulnerable).
Those procs are especially nice for Controllers with a secondary that can hit their pets with Resistance or Defense Shields.
I use both the Sovereign Right and the Expediant Reinforcement +10% Resistance bonus on my Animate Stone for my Earth/Rad and Earth/Storm to add 20% extra Resistance to an already high resistance pet -- it makes Rocky almost unkillable. You can see that they are working because the little resistance Icons float around them. (I think there is another way to verify it, but I don't recall off hand and I can't get in game to check.)
When you say "pet damage IO bonus," do you mean the Soulbound Allegence Chance for Build Up proc? Yes, that one works, too. If you watch the pet window, you can see the build up icon show up (especially for Phantom Army or Fire Imps, since there are three of them).
I use the Soulbound in most of my several sevel 50 Illusion controllers in Phantom Army.
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Bolded bits confuse me somewhat. Or is PA able to self buff, but not able to recive outside buffs? My PA has some pet auras to help out phantasm, bunch of recharge, and some acc/dam, but if they can use build up I might have to figure out a way to get that in there.
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Originally Posted by Local_Man
The way you wrote up this question is somewhat confusing. I'm guessing that you are asking if the IOs that provide a pet buff like the Sovereign Right +10% Resistance to Pets proc works for Controllers? Is that it?
The answer, if that is the question, is: Yes, the Sovereign Right +10% Resistance to Pets, the Expediant Reinforcement +10% Resistance to pets, Edict of the Master 5% Defense Bonus for Pets and the Call to Arms +5% Defense bonus for Pets all work on Controller Pets (except Phantom Army, who is unbuffable and invulnerable). Those procs are especially nice for Controllers with a secondary that can hit their pets with Resistance or Defense Shields. I use both the Sovereign Right and the Expediant Reinforcement +10% Resistance bonus on my Animate Stone for my Earth/Rad and Earth/Storm to add 20% extra Resistance to an already high resistance pet -- it makes Rocky almost unkillable. You can see that they are working because the little resistance Icons float around them. (I think there is another way to verify it, but I don't recall off hand and I can't get in game to check.) When you say "pet damage IO bonus," do you mean the Soulbound Allegence Chance for Build Up proc? Yes, that one works, too. If you watch the pet window, you can see the build up icon show up (especially for Phantom Army or Fire Imps, since there are three of them). I use the Soulbound in most of my several sevel 50 Illusion controllers in Phantom Army. |
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Originally Posted by BackAlleyBrawler
That...was a Herocon 09 exclusive easter egg. The powerset will not have doves associated with it.
Namely because you guys would want to color tint the damn doves, or make them hawks/ravens/flying sharks/etc and that's just a headache I do...not...want...to deal with. |
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Apologies, by Pet Damage IO I meant (but didn't explain) both the Pet Damage and Intensive Recharge IO set 'classes' (i.e. those designed for henchmen and non-controllable pets).|
Originally Posted by Local_Man
When you say "pet damage IO bonus," do you mean the Soulbound Allegence Chance for Build Up proc?
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Thank you, you have answered the question and I think that although I've picked worthwhile procs, I need to check where I've put them, as it could be the case that they're not in the wisest places (i.e. on my ill/ff troller, I'll need to check what's in PA and Phantasm - I think the Chance for BU is in Phantasm currently, and your point about it being most effective in PA makes a lot of sense).
I basically didn't want to slot bonuses like that in Edict of the Master and Sovereign Right if all they helped was MM henchmen. To me, that's just a waste of slots on a troller (who, technically, doesn't have henchmen.... well, without the incarnate one).
Again, thanks for the information and guidance.
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Yes PA benefits from the Soulbound proc. It grants the bonus to all three when it fires.
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Originally Posted by Come Undone
if they can use build up I might have to figure out a way to get that in there.
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Firstly, as I know it will be asked (or may be referred to snarkily), I did try to use the search engine to find an appropriate forum thread, but couldn't find one. This might be due to my extraordinary (super?) ability to be incompetent with using the forum search engine.
Secondly, I have tried researching Paragonwiki and City of Data, but couldn't find the answer/s I seek.
So, it leads here. Since GR, I can finally roll trollers and play red-side (thank you, GR!). I have two now, and throughly love playing them. However, on both character's builds, I have used 2-3 (don't have the builds here with me) of the pet damage IO bonuses (and the Sov proc) .
I've never had need to question the usage of these before, as it's clear that MM henchmen get the bonuses (and this is easily confirmed by checking the combat attributes for the henchmen/pets). As I can't check pet combat attributes on a troller, and the character's combat attributes don't seem to mention it, I ask what I hope is a simple question - do these bonuses work on troller and villain PPP pets (that is, non-MM pets/henchmen)? Obviously if they don't, I'll do a new build up for each character, rip the IOs out and put them in SG base.
Again, apologies if this has been answered previously, and thanks in advance for any information.