Increase the # Recipes in a sets
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Blood_Beret,
Posted on: 2011-03-30 19:48 in Suggestions and Ideas
While in general I DO wish there were more recipes per set (allowing you to pick the ones most appropriate for the specific power you are slotting [Aim vs Tactics for instance]); I'm pretty sure with sets such as Gaussian's the only reason the 6slot bonus is as good as it is, is specifically because you can only get it once.
If they allowed a method of getting that bonus multiple times, you could expect that bonus to get nerfed to hell and back.
Gaussian's is really the only set that gives a special bonus cause of the unique though, So It's be nice if they at least went back and boosted the last bonus of other sets with uniques, to make up for it being a 1time bonus.
@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too
Set IOs are meant to create a trade off between set bonuses and raw enhancement performance so that demand will be spread over more sets.
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For many Unique IO, the unique bonus is actually granted by the just having the unique IO, but Chance for Build Up isn't unique to Gaussian's.
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Originally Posted by Oathbound
Gaussian's is really the only set that gives a special bonus cause of the unique though, So It's be nice if they at least went back and boosted the last bonus of other sets with uniques, to make up for it being a 1time bonus.
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I kinda like this idea, it's growing on me with successive reads. . .
Having eight or ten recipes/enhancements in a set but only being able to use a max of six has some appeal if different combinations of enhancements produce different results and bonuses. . .
This could be cool!
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Yes, it does. And that is completely intentional. |
Originally Posted by Blood_Beret
The current setup limits use to 1 full set of Gaussian's.
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No other set in existence gives you as much of a defense bonus for only six slots.
You get: 2.5% defense to melee, ranged and AoE defense, AND 1.25% to EVERY typed defense (except Psi)
Look at other similar bonuses. Titanium coating gives you 2.5% as well, but only to one position and 2 types. Red Fortune gives you 2.5%, but only to ranged defense. The smallest number of slots you can get 2.5% AoE defense from is 4, and that's only if you happen to have a defense debuffing power, if you don't you'll need to slot 6 there as well
So....Gaussian's gives you the same amount of defense for only 6 slots that THREE sets gives you for a minimum of SIXTEEN slots.
That's why it's a one time bonus, the devs don't want people stacking a bunch of them and getting a crap ton of cheap defense. They already nerfed Blessing of the Zephyr for that exact reason, if we could slot more than one full set of Gaussian's you can BET we'd see a drastic change to the amount of defense it offers.
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And before you say "No, I just want better enhancement in the power!", If you are only interested in better enhancement and not that powerful set bonus, you can frankenslot the power with the piece you need from a different set and achieve the same result.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
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I wasn't meaning the effect of the Unique itself, I was meaning the 6slot set bonus.|
Originally Posted by Shadow State
For many Unique IO, the unique bonus is actually granted by the just having the unique IO, but Chance for Build Up isn't unique to Gaussian's.
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The 6 slot bonus is as good as it is specifically because you can only ever one of it. If you could have multiples of it, it would either end up being to only 1 positional type, or perhaps 1% to all positions instead of 2.5% to all.
@Oathbound & @Oathbound Too
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I know, and I was pointing out that other sets with unique IOs may not need a powerful one off set bonus, like Gaussian's has, because they have a powerful one off bonus on the Unique IO itself.
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Originally Posted by Oathbound
I wasn't meaning the effect of the Unique itself, I was meaning the 6slot set bonus.
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With the exception of Steadfast and Gladiator's Armor.
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Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
No other set in existence gives you as much of a defense bonus for only six slots.
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Yes and no. The Guassian's set does give a great set bonuses. But I was also looking at a set like Malise the "proc" is useless in some powers and the idea of having something else there is more appealing. ie something that will not cause aggro. |
Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
It could, if it weren't so obvious that the OP is more interested in stacking bonuses that we currently get only once than he is in giving people options. That is the only real purpose adding another enhancement to a set with a unique could really serve: It would let you get that 6 slot bonus more than once.
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And as mentioned the Steadfast and Gladiator armors give +3 Def to all and it is a Unique that only needs one slot. Also with Steadfast you get a KB, and the set bonus really is not that great.
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Some sets have procs and/or Uniques. As most people know Procs are not good in "Aura" type powers, and Uniques mean you can only slot one of that type.
Example 1
The current setup limits use to 1 full set of Gaussian's, as the Chance for Build up Proc is Unique. If there was another one in the set, let say a Guassian's "Recharge" similar to Adjusted Targeting or Doctored Wounds,
Guassian's:
1. To Hit
2. To Hit / Recharge
3. To Hit / Recharge / End Redux
4. Recharge / End Redux
5. To Hit / End Redux
6. Chance for Build up
7. Recharge
Example 2
Malaise Illusions Chance for Psi, a Mind Dom/Controller would not use the Proc because it causes Aggro if there was another recipe that could be used and give the full set bonus, it would be nice.
You still could slot 6 of the 7, but it adds more slotting options with the same bonuses.
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