Any suggestions for making my speedster even faster?
You could lose the celerity stealth for another run IO. You could 5 slot kinetic combat instead of crushing impacts, although it would be hella expensive, you don't need the bonuses really. This could open up slotting a bit elsewhere tho, but you'd lose the 5% recharge.
Really impressive speed for not even hving SS.
This isn't a KM/SR but a claws/SR ... but thought it might give you some ideas though overall they are very similar in speed.
Edit: Bah forgot to toggle things on and off .. sprints off (which is full time) and Elude is on (which is part time) so be sure to toggle on and off as appropriate.
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Speedy Claws: Level 50 Science Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Claws
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Swipe -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(15), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 1: Focused Fighting -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(5), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(11), LkGmblr-Rchg+(11)
Level 2: Slash -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Achilles-ResDeb%(40)
Level 4: Focused Senses -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(5), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(25), LkGmblr-Rchg+(37)
Level 6: Swift -- Run-I(A), Run-I(23)
Level 8: Spin -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(9), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(9), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Oblit-%Dam(46)
Level 10: Practiced Brawler -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A), Jump-I(50)
Level 14: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(15), Zephyr-ResKB(40)
Level 16: Health -- Numna-Heal(A), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(17), Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(17), Mrcl-Rcvry+(34), RgnTis-Heal/EndRdx(34), RgnTis-Heal/Rchg(37)
Level 18: Focus -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(19), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(19), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(27), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(29), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(21), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-End%(37)
Level 22: Quickness -- Run-I(A), Run-I(23)
Level 24: Agile -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(42), GftotA-Run+(43)
Level 26: Dodge -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(42), GftotA-Run+(43)
Level 28: Lucky -- LkGmblr-Def(A), LkGmblr-Rchg+(42), GftotA-Run+(43)
Level 30: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Shockwave -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng(33), FrcFbk-Rchg/EndRdx(34), FrcFbk-Rechg%(40)
Level 35: Evasion -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(36), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(36), GftotA-Run+(36)
Level 38: Tough -- Aegis-ResDam(A), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(39), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39), S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(39)
Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Physical Perfection -- RgnTis-Heal/EndRdx(A), RgnTis-Heal/Rchg(45), RgnTis-Regen+(45), P'Shift-EndMod(45), P'Shift-End%(46), EndMod-I(46)
Level 47: Weave -- GftotA-Def(A), GftotA-Def/EndRdx(48), GftotA-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48), GftotA-Run+(48)
Level 49: Elude -- Winter-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng(A), Winter-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(50), Winter-ResSlow(50)
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- HO:Micro(A), HO:Micro(29)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 6: Ninja Run
Level 6: LEGACY BUILD
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Regenerative Tissue gives 4% run speed. You could use that instead of Miracle in Health. A Gaussian's set in Power Siphon would give you 5% and get you almost to the soft cap, but you would have to sacrifice the procs in your attacks. With those changes and Ninja Run on, you would be at 84.3 mph. Maybe I'm missing something, but it looks like your recovery is high enough to handle Ninja Run while fighting.
Edit: Also, a Musculature Radial Paragon would boost that to 88.8 mph, which is just fast enough for time travel! Also, I forgot that Ninja Run is suppressed in combat.
very impressive. my stone tanker has 78mph with sprint and ninja run, and of course, is a necessity of the damned granite. you got that and more just for fun.
Thanks for the replies!
I Think that slotting Kinetic Melees on a /SR toon would sacrifice a bit too much functionality in other respects. I have been toying with the idea, though.
But a couple of the suggestions seems quite doable. By shifting the Winter's Gift set into Elude (like Doomguide's slotting), I open up another slot for health (+4% runspeed as well as more regen!), and if I decide to use Tough as nothing more than a set mule, I can drop the HO and stick another slot into power siphon for some more speed (+5% runspeed!). That leaves me with a speed of 69,4 mph without Ninja run, and 89,5 with it if/when I finish the Alpha slot.
...and as permanently detoggling Tough would lessen the endurance drain, it might let me juggle in another bonus somewhere. Thanks for the ideas guys and/or gals, they helped a lot!
Edit: Ah, as well as putting in a third Run IO in sprint instead of the stealth proc. Not sure if I like that part: something moving as fast as Muscle Memory should look a bit immaterial to the unsuspecting fellow player/random mob. 
Edit 2: Then again: If I _do_ slot Kinetic Melee and sacrifice some recovery, regen, recharge and HP I could get to the runspeed cap w/ ninja run as well as actually slotting Burst:
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Kinetic Melee
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Quick Strike
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
- (19) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus: Level 30
- (39) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (40) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 30
- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 30
- (3) Gift of the Ancients - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (15) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
- (21) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (3) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (11) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (21) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
- (27) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 30
- (31) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 30
- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 30
- (5) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 30
- (5) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (9) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge: Level 30
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
- (13) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (15) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (17) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (25) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 30
- (46) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus: Level 30
- (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
- (25) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 30
- (42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (42) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (43) Kinetic Combat - Knockdown Bonus: Level 30
- (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 30
- (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance: Level 30
- (13) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 30
- (34) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Stagger - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30
- (50) Stagger - Endurance/Stun: Level 30
- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 30
- (17) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
- (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 30
- (19) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
- (34) Aegis - Resistance: Level 30
- (34) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (33) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (37) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
- (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 30
- (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (31) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
- (27) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 30
- (29) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 30
- (29) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (31) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge: Level 30
- (A) Armageddon - Damage: Level 50
- (42) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (43) Armageddon - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (45) Armageddon - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (46) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage: Level 50
- (A) Hecatomb - Damage: Level 50
- (37) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (46) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50
- (48) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 40
- (A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
- (36) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
- (A) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 30
- (39) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance: Level 30
- (39) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%): Level 30
- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 30
- (45) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 30
- (45) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 30
- (A) Force Feedback - Accuracy/Knockback: Level 30
- (50) Force Feedback - Damage/Knockback: Level 30
- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 50: Musculature Total Radial Revamp
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Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (33) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (36) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (A) Empty
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (33) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (36) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (A) Jumping IO: Level 30
- (A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration: Level 30
- (11) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 30
- (37) Regenerative Tissue - Heal/Endurance: Level 30
- (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (7) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 30
- (7) Endurance Modification IO: Level 50
- (9) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 30
Set Bonus Totals:
- 17,25% Defense(Smashing)
- 17,25% Defense(Lethal)
- 6% Defense(Fire)
- 6% Defense(Cold)
- 6% Defense(Energy)
- 6% Defense(Negative)
- 6% Defense(Psionic)
- 11,63% Defense(Melee)
- 6% Defense(Ranged)
- 6% Defense(AoE)
- 5,4% Max End
- 30% Enhancement(Accuracy)
- 57,5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
- 41% FlySpeed
- 75,3 HP (5,623%) HitPoints
- 41% JumpHeight
- 41% JumpSpeed
- MezResist(Immobilize) 8,25%
- 16% (0,267 End/sec) Recovery
- 20% (1,118 HP/sec) Regeneration
- 20% ResEffect(FlySpeed)
- 20% ResEffect(RechargeTime)
- 20% ResEffect(RunSpeed)
- 15,04% Resistance(Fire)
- 10,04% Resistance(Cold)
- 89,5% RunSpeed
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Yeah the thought of slotting kinetic combats on a sr make my wallet hurt, but an option i guess. The stealth makes sense too tho.
My main is ma/sr, and has flight. Through no real intention, just what was givin by chance bonuses, his sprint/ninja run is a lot faster than flight, which kinda pisses me off really. But flight still there for theme, mobility, and hami i guess. Can we get an increase to flight? All these incarnate abilities and we still can only fly as fast as I drive on the highway behind a cop?
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Can we get an increase to flight? All these incarnate abilities and we still can only fly as fast as I drive on the highway behind a cop?
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Flight is the only travel power that will let you go anywhere, won't drain your end bar, and doesn't leave you susceptible to attack from enemies. If it were also as fast as other options, it would clearly be the best choice by a wide margin.
It's set up so the travel powers all have advantages and disadvantages to using them, with no one power being clearly superior to the others. I think flight speed is probably about as fast right now as it's ever likely to get.
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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison See, it's gems like these that make me check Claws' post history every once in a while to make sure I haven't missed anything good lately. |
I've managed 88.87 sprint+ninja run on a Claws/SR scrapper. I'll see if I can export the build to Mids and post it here.
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Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.92 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Fast Runner: Level 50 Science Scrapper Primary Power Set: Claws Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Medicine Power Pool: Concealment Hero Profile: Level 1: Strike
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Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift
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Heyhey!
With the addition of Kinetic Melee I decided to build myself a KM/SR speedster, Muscle Memory. I wanted a toon that felt really fast, both when it came to "looks" and unsurpressed movement speed.
My current build retains soft cap down to lvl 30, and I have tried to cram in as many +runspeed bonuses as possible while still maintaining a functional attack chain that seldom runs out of endurance. I like the result, but thought that someone on the forums might have ideas about how to:
- fit in even more running speed
- optimize the attack chain (at the moment i run QS-BB-QS-SB-QS-CS w/ hasten up, mostly because I don't want her to stop moving even momentarily).
and, possibly:
- give the toon more AOE capability (as you can see, burst is there merely for the visual effect at the moment)
without losing the ability to exemp down.
Things I could just as easily live without are Grant invisibility, Elude (only keeping it for its +run) and the extra slots in tough.
Any ideas?
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Kinetic Melee
Secondary Power Set: Super Reflexes
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Body Mastery
Hero Profile:
Level 1: Quick Strike
- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
- (39) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (40) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (40) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (43) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 40
Level 1: Focused Fighting- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 30
- (3) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 30
- (15) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
- (21) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (25) Gift of the Ancients - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (25) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
Level 2: Focused Senses- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (3) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (11) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
- (21) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
- (27) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 30
- (31) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 30
Level 4: Agile- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 30
- (5) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 30
- (5) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (9) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge: Level 30
Level 6: Body Blow- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
- (13) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (15) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (46) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (46) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (46) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 30
Level 8: Smashing Blow- (A) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
- (42) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (42) Crushing Impact - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (43) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 30
- (43) Crushing Impact - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance: Level 30
- (50) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 30
Level 10: Practiced Brawler- (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 30
Level 12: Power Siphon- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (42) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 14: Boxing- (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 16: Dodge- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 30
- (17) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 30
- (17) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (19) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge: Level 30
Level 18: Tough- (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All): Level 30
- (19) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%: Level 30
- (34) Aegis - Resistance: Level 30
- (34) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
- (34) HamiO:Ribosome Exposure
Level 20: Quickness- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (33) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (37) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 22: Combat Jumping- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
- (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 30
- (23) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (37) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range: Level 30
- (39) Winter's Gift - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance: Level 30
- (39) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%): Level 30
Level 24: Hasten- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (31) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
- (48) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 26: Weave- (A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
- (27) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
Level 28: Lucky- (A) Gift of the Ancients - Run Speed +7.5%: Level 30
- (29) Gift of the Ancients - Defense: Level 30
- (29) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
- (31) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge: Level 30
Level 30: Grant Invisibility- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 50
Level 32: Concentrated Strike- (A) Hecatomb - Damage: Level 50
- (37) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge: Level 50
- (48) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Hecatomb - Accuracy/Recharge: Level 50
- (50) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative): Level 50
Level 35: Evasion- (A) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
- (36) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure
Level 38: Elude- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 41: Conserve Power- (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 50
Level 44: Physical Perfection- (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 30
- (45) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 30
- (45) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 30
- (45) Numina's Convalescence - Heal: Level 30
Level 47: Burst- (A) Accuracy IO: Level 50
Level 49: Stealth- (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx ReserveLevel 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
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Level 1: Brawl
- (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (33) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (36) Celerity - +Stealth: Level 50
Level 2: Rest- (A) Empty
Level 1: Critical HitLevel 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
- (A) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (33) Run Speed IO: Level 50
- (36) Run Speed IO: Level 50
Level 2: Hurdle- (A) Jumping IO: Level 30
Level 2: Health- (A) Regenerative Tissue - +Regeneration: Level 30
- (11) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 30
- (13) Miracle - Heal: Level 30
Level 2: Stamina- (A) Endurance Modification IO: Level 30
- (7) Endurance Modification IO: Level 30
- (7) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 30
- (9) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End: Level 30
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