Creation Deletion...and WTH


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Ok. I used to be a controller player. Then a Dom Player. Then I tried a defender who was fun until 45 and boring now.

I have tried the veats, a corrupter. I think the only class I have not players is a Brute/Tank, because I just don't like the idea of it. Not so much my style.

My problem is that I seem to either lose interest in something at 35, or in some cases 20.

I can't find an AT that is "me"

My friends list is packed and they want me to join them, but I sometimes just don't want to play anything I have, which is an issue because I delete pretty much everything and keep 4 key toons who I try and level, and even they will eventually get deleted. Except my 50 because she is my only one. And I don't like her at all. Not even enough to incarnate her or buy her cool recipies. (Emp/Psi/Power Mastry) and I only ever bring her out when the team is blaster heavy and they all get mezzed.

It's not that I don't enjoy the game. I love all of the story plots. I love the feel of the game and the costume creator and all of that jazz, but Im not falling in love with anything I play, and I as an RPer should be loving them. All are concept, and all of them have backstories and such.

Heck even my Widow who is fun...is now sort of slowing down.

Im hitting a wall somewhere.

Am I the only one who feels like this? Or is there a point when the AT you thought you liked just disolved. And again this is not for lack of trying or altitis, it's more to do with the issue of not finding something that is both thematic, and fun for me.


 

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Ok. I used to be a controller player. Then a Dom Player. Then I tried a defender who was fun until 45 and boring now.

I have tried the veats, a corrupter. I think the only class I have not players is a Brute/Tank, because I just don't like the idea of it. Not so much my style.

My problem is that I seem to either lose interest in something at 35, or in some cases 20.

I can't find an AT that is "me"

My friends list is packed and they want me to join them, but I sometimes just don't want to play anything I have, which is an issue because I delete pretty much everything and keep 4 key toons who I try and level, and even they will eventually get deleted. Except my 50 because she is my only one. And I don't like her at all. Not even enough to incarnate her or buy her cool recipies. (Emp/Psi/Power Mastry) and I only ever bring her out when the team is blaster heavy and they all get mezzed.

It's not that I don't enjoy the game. I love all of the story plots. I love the feel of the game and the costume creator and all of that jazz, but Im not falling in love with anything I play, and I as an RPer should be loving them. All are concept, and all of them have backstories and such.

Heck even my Widow who is fun...is now sort of slowing down.

Im hitting a wall somewhere.

Am I the only one who feels like this? Or is there a point when the AT you thought you liked just disolved. And again this is not for lack of trying or altitis, it's more to do with the issue of not finding something that is both thematic, and fun for me.
I'm an altaholic and go through this often.

I will play a character up to the "good" levels (30-35+) and then get tired of it. But trust me, don't delete that character. Once I've had my fun playing with my army of alts I'll dust him off a week or month or several months later and remember why I liked him enough to get him to the 30-35 range. And he'll shine again.

I'm going through this right now. A full year ago I created an Ill/TA troller and enjoyed the ride to lvl 35, got Oil Slick Arrow, which is the holy grail of Trick Arrow and....I parked him. Untouched for almost a year. I took him for a spin about 2 weeks ago and fell in love again. He's 46, about to ding 47 and I have been loving every minute. I've been enjoying him so much that I started tricking him out with set IOs. Looking to scrape every last bit of recharge. I know it's not alot by the forum standards, but I have around 35% global recharge bonus without hasten. And I'm about to add a LoTG 7.5% as soon as I hit 47. 100%+ global recharge is a major achievement for me.

My advice is to play a toon while you enjoy them, and don't force yourself to play them when you don't. That will only burn you out. Don't delete. Revisit them after a while.

My question to you is this...What toon did you enjoy leveling up the most?


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Have you tried a MFing Warshade?

My warshade was, hands down, the most fun experience I've ever had playing this game.
Im trying to get on board with my War Shade...but she sits at 19. I was having an issue getting into her RP style and the playstyle of the War Shade.


 

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Im trying to get on board with my War Shade...but she sits at 19. I was having an issue getting into her RP style and the playstyle of the War Shade.
Well, I have what I'm told is one of the better warshade guides available, so I suggest you take a look at that. It'll help immensely with regards to play style. The link is in my signature.

Also on my blog is an article about how I've RP'd my warshade, so that may spark some ideas for you. There's more to come as I get around to it.


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I'm an altaholic and go through this often.

I will play a character up to the "good" levels (30-35+) and then get tired of it. But trust me, don't delete that character. Once I've had my fun playing with my army of alts I'll dust him off a week or month or several months later and remember why I liked him enough to get him to the 30-35 range. And he'll shine again.

I'm going through this right now. A full year ago I created an Ill/TA troller and enjoyed the ride to lvl 35, got Oil Slick Arrow, which is the holy grail of Trick Arrow and....I parked him. Untouched for almost a year. I took him for a spin about 2 weeks ago and fell in love again. He's 46, about to ding 47 and I have been loving every minute. I've been enjoying him so much that I started tricking him out with set IOs. Looking to scrape every last bit of recharge. I know it's not alot by the forum standards, but I have around 35% global recharge bonus without hasten. And I'm about to add a LoTG 7.5% as soon as I hit 47. 100%+ global recharge is a major achievement for me.

My advice is to play a toon while you enjoy them, and don't force yourself to play them when you don't. That will only burn you out. Don't delete. Revisit them after a while.

My question to you is this...What toon did you enjoy leveling up the most?
When I played years ago, and then left when the AE came in, I loved Doms. Playstyle has changed, and I did like leveling my Widow.

I did really enjoy leveling my Defender because teaming was available often, but then I realized that playing a healer is really not so much fun when you hit 50.

I level toons who I feel I have some sort of connection with. Right now it's my Widow who I enjoy, but then...fizzle. Even though she is fun, and I like her, it just fizzled out. I feel like there is a leveling block at about 34-36 where I just can't make the hurtle.


 

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Having a hard time sticking with one character is very common amongst new players, and it's just something that you get over the more you play. The only good advice I can give you is to avoid deleting your characters unless you need a character slot.


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Well, I have what I'm told is one of the better warshade guides available, so I suggest you take a look at that. It'll help immensely with regards to play style. The link is in my signature.

Also on my blog is an article about how I've RP'd my warshade, so that may spark some ideas for you. There's more to come as I get around to it.
Maybe Ill dust her off. I mean she is interesting to play, and your guide was usefull. I looked at it a long time ago when I got back.

It's like, I love the complete insanity that is a blaster, and I love the combination of melee and attacks they have, but for some reason, I just fall a little short. I had one up to 45, and while she was fun, as soon as the AOE mez spam happens, I seem to lose sight of why I chose the class.


 

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Having a hard time sticking with one character is very common amongst new players, and it's just something that you get over the more you play. The only good advice I can give you is to avoid deleting your characters unless you need a character slot.
I delete them for their money LOL...

When I find something I think will be shiny and nicer!

Horrible trait of mine I know.

But thanks for the advice. I should really stop the deleting process. I keep the costumes in the Database as sort of a personal grave yard it seems.


 

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I suggest you stop deleting toons unless you really need the space. Several times as I level a toon they will stall somewhere between 30-45. I always get an idea for another toon and want to try it out. Sometimes the toons aren't played for months, then I get the urge to pick them up again.

The great thing about this game is getting 12 slots on each server for free. Altitus is a manageable disease, good luck. :P

Personally I find Brutes to be the most fun, never could get into Khelds. I've gotten every AT to 50 except Khelds......


 

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I suggest you stop deleting toons unless you really need the space. Several times as I level a toon they will stall somewhere between 30-45. I always get an idea for another toon and want to try it out. Sometimes the toons aren't played for months, then I get the urge to pick them up again.

The great thing about this game is getting 12 slots on each server for free. Altitus is a manageable disease, good luck. :P

Personally I find Brutes to be the most fun, never could get into Khelds. I've gotten every AT to 50 except Khelds......

Ill make that effor. Funny though, I was thinking just a second ago why I leveled my Defender up. I don't think I enjoyed her really, but I did really like her boots.


 

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Why do you feel this is a problem? Coming at this from the opposite direction...let's say all of your current characters were 50s. Where's the excitement in "Double XP Weekends" then?!? How do you pick with character to "work" on when they're all "done"? Other than continually starting from scratch (I hate starting at level 1 ), I don't really see any problem with what you're doing.

That said...how about making new characters in batches? You have the server slots, make 10 new characters at a time (or more!). You might find that you are continually drawn to play 1 or 2 more than the others, keep those, delete the rest, and make another batch. Survival of the fittest .


 

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Why do you feel this is a problem? Coming at this from the opposite direction...let's say all of your current characters were 50s. Where's the excitement in "Double XP Weekends" then?!? How do you pick with character to "work" on when they're all "done"? Other than continually starting from scratch (I hate starting at level 1 ), I don't really see any problem with what you're doing.

That said...how about making new characters in batches? You have the server slots, make 10 new characters at a time (or more!). You might find that you are continually drawn to play 1 or 2 more than the others, keep those, delete the rest, and make another batch. Survival of the fittest .
It's not that I find this a problem, other than I really enjoy Srike Forces and things on those levels. It's like I want to find something that will remain enjoyable so that I can participate and enjoy the game. Heck, Id even like to incarnate something, but I haven't quite figured out something I can even get that far.

I guess thats my dilema


 

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I have a problem playing "support" characters. To date, I have ONE defender above level 30, and he's my Rad/Sonic big game hunter. Still haven't gotten a Controller or a Tank past level 40.

I tend to stick with Scrappers, Blasters, and Brutes the easiest. There's just something about getting in the thick of things and smashing face that is cathartic after an annoying day at work.

Try a scrapper or a brute. In your OP you mentioned "Tank/Brute". The way you phrased that leads me to think you believe they play identically (or at least similarly), and nothing could be further from the truth.


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When I played years ago, and then left when the AE came in, I loved Doms. Playstyle has changed, and I did like leveling my Widow.

I did really enjoy leveling my Defender because teaming was available often, but then I realized that playing a healer is really not so much fun when you hit 50.

I level toons who I feel I have some sort of connection with. Right now it's my Widow who I enjoy, but then...fizzle. Even though she is fun, and I like her, it just fizzled out. I feel like there is a leveling block at about 34-36 where I just can't make the hurtle.
Well, at 34-36 the new shiny powers come less often. Depending on your build, it may or may not be the end-all-be-all power, or what makes or breaks you. I find that I prefer to play builds that start off strong rather than late bloomers. But I find that it's a double-edged sword because once I get into the 30s there's not much to look forward to. Reflecting on my 50s and high-level toons, they all had something to offer as their lvl 32-35-38 powers. I have a bunch of Storm toons; Tornado/Lightning Storm reinvents the storm powers. SS/SD tank; Footstomp is awesome. The Ill/TA I mentioned earlier; well, OSA really is a game changer.

So maybe post a few of your high-level toons and maybe we'll see a pattern and suggest others you may enjoy.


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Well, for me, the characters that "survive" the journey to 50 tend to be the ones that had the ideas that I liked best. Examples: BioStatic, a Radiation Emission / Electric Blast defender, born when his nuclear experiment got short-circuited by a thunderstorm. Or, Baal Rogh: a Dark Armour / Fire Melee tanker, the genetically engineered result of Circle of Thorn Demons, and those Shadow creatures from another dimension. Basically, if you "invest" enough in the background of the character, you might get more life out of it, or at lease be more reluctant to delete it. Even if the idea isn't so great, sometimes the character just gets on a roll (Lighthouse, human only PB, original concept: how shiny can I make a character? or Dysleximouser, human only WS, original concept: poking fun at "cat" themed characters, and ones with "w3yRd" spelling) and finds himself at 50.

Building for a particular task (tanking the STF, off the top of my head), might get you another toon to 50. When I tried that though, once the desired task was completed, the toon was deleted (illusion/kinetics controller, built for the "Illusion Suicide Squad" of the old Hami raids, and way before server transfers were an option).


It sounds like you're just burning yourself out, playing the same toon from 1st level to whatever. Most of us have other toons to switch to, to give ourselves a change of pace, but as you delete yours, you hamstring yourself into repeating this behaviour. You need to find ways to make characters you've become bored with, "new" again. The game has some ways to do this built-in: costumes. Especially now with power customization, changing costumes can provide at least a visual spark for your imagination. Repecs are another way. You're locked into primary and secondary choices, but even after 10 levels (the earliest, I personally, have ever respec'd ;D) a couple of key changes can alter the feel of a character. By level 30, you can practically re-invent yourself! IOs to a lesser extent, and now Incarnate abilites too, can also change (in some cases radically) how a character plays. Or try a level-pact with a friend, or group of friends, with the intent that you only play those toons together as a duo/team (obviously, you can have other teammates as well, as long as you are teammed with each other). Shared investment might prove harder to dissolve.


 

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Make something silly. Completely ludicrous. A concept and a voice that are pure comedy. Don't delete them when you get tired of the clown, just let it gather dust. When things get too serious/boring you'll have your Grav/Storm goofball to come back to. (Energy blaster is also a good pick.) And leveling them won't matter because they aren't a serious character, aren't a serious build.

Make a character with an RP goal, something bordering on soap opera drama. She discovers that her parents escaped from Praetoria but left a sibling behind and you can't resolve that until the later Praetorian arcs in the 40s. That is 43 levels of angst to toy with right there, and a goal.

Warshades. Warshades, warshades, warshades. Crazy fun from all angles. My warshade is my blaster, my tank, my cures-all-ills go-to gal for fun. Dechs' guide gives you the mantra "Must find more bodies" and its a good one. You love teaming, you love moving fast, and you love plowing through huge groups at mach speeds. You're also sharing a body with an alien. Who may or may not be quite over being evil and having a search for power. (Canon says that the two personalities combine to form one complete new one. I find playing it as a dual personality a lot more fun.)

Get to the tailor often. Screw replacing enhancements, you need new outfits.

Don't delete someone you've lost the love for unless you need the space. They're fine waiting for you to come back.


Altoholism isn't a problem, its a calling.

60+ characters, 5 years, 3 50's.

 

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Try a scrapper or a brute. In your OP you mentioned "Tank/Brute". The way you phrased that leads me to think you believe they play identically (or at least similarly), and nothing could be further from the truth.
Scrapperlock: the cure for what ails the OP!

I'm with Claws here though. Try a scrapper. I've got some support folks up into the high-30s range and I miss being able to do, you know, damage like I can on scrappers/brutes/tanks.

It is also well worth mentioning that some sets don't bloom until you IO them out. Don't take a SD scrapper without planning to IO it to really see some good performance. You can optionally team with buffers to get similar levels of performance, but you need expensive IOs to really become Mr. Awesome While Solo.


 

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I'll echo what other people are saying... when you get bored of one character, don't delete it. That thing that made it fun up to that point might seem fun again in the future. Really, this is a game and the whole point is playing something fun. The more characters you have available, the bigger the chance is that someone in you roster has something you'll feel like playing.

I admit, I'm trying to teach myself something somewhat related as well. I'm really good at grinding to 50 so I can get that crazy level 50 build that I made in Mids slotted... but often I push that so much that I force myself through leveling when I'm bored with the character... so the character doesn't see much playtime at 50. Alts help tired chracters feel fresh. If I had more alts before, my list of 50s would probably be very different.

So yeah, don't delete. Obviously your preferences fluctuate, so you never know if you might find an old character fun again.



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Oh wow Nyx, I have been having the exact same problem too! I want that one arcytype powerset that says "This is my all time fav powerset to play and will be my MAIN character to fall back to" But that's very difficult to find in CoX. Perhapes your MAIN fav power set doesn't exist in the game yet.

Or what I think is happening is despite the concept being fun and cool until the lvl 30's it might simply be the problem that not matter what arctype we pick the combat becomes extremely repetative without realizing it out front.

What I mean is every fight we end up using the same abilities in a certain order and only slightly changes it up as we level some more only usually enhancing the current routine. Sounds boring to me to be doing the exact same formula every fight but we do end up doing it.

I think I've narrowed my fav type to Doms but even now I'm reconsidering. For now my fav powerset I believe doesn't exist in game yet. We have to choose the sidekick for now lol


 

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What I mean is every fight we end up using the same abilities in a certain order and only slightly changes it up as we level some more only usually enhancing the current routine. Sounds boring to me to be doing the exact same formula every fight but we do end up doing it.

Warshades fix this. Honest. There isn't "a" best way to play a shade. Every combat is different, every moment is a new one. You have more powers than you can figure out ways to use them. I have the attention span of a ferret on pixi sticks and I played my warshade almost straight through to 50.


Altoholism isn't a problem, its a calling.

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Warshades fix this. Honest. There isn't "a" best way to play a shade. Every combat is different, every moment is a new one. You have more powers than you can figure out ways to use them. I have the attention span of a ferret on pixi sticks and I played my warshade almost straight through to 50.
Indeed. Warshades, to reach their fullest potential, walk a razor's edge between awesome and dead.

To quote myself from my guide, "If you aren't using Stygian Return every time it's up, you haven't found enough bodies yet."


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The cure for getting stuck:

Make a flavor of the month character - one that is obscenely over-powered.

I would try a Fire/Dark corruptor or an Electric/Ninjitsu Stalker, maybe a Spine/WP scrapper- a Plant/Kin controller or a Plant/Thorns dom.

Something that just levels itself. Then just make it a point of once a week run a TF with it - you will see how freaking awesome it is and then it gets the juices flowing again.

Been here forever and have deleted oh so many 50's. Unless it has that spark the thing that makes me smile - I cash them out and re-roll sometimes with the same name.


 

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Happens all the time, but I certainly wouldn't delete any characters over it, unless you just really hate them.

I played my DP/Pain Corrupter to around 32 before getting bored and moving on to another character. He sat there for months, until I got bored of the other character I made. Then, as I glanced over my characters, I saw my Corrupter and remembered the fun I had and started playing him again.

He just reached 45 last night.

I'm getting bored again, but it's not because the character is bad. It's because I have ideas for other alts and an itch to play some of my already existing characters. As my desire to play other characters rises my desire to play my Corrupter wanes. But even if I don't push through to 50 right now, I know that some day in the future I will see him sitting in my character menu and remember how fun he is. At that point I will lose interest in whatever other character I'm playing at the time and enjoy my Corrupter once more.

Also, don't buy the whole "I have to find which AT I am!" My first character was a Tank, and I found myself taking to the role easily. I would even say how I found "my AT." Then I made my Rad/Rad Defender. Then I made the only character I have ever taken straight to 50 with no breaks; my Warshade. I would even say that Warshades are my AT, and it probably is as close as it can get to being so, but then I could turn around and play a Scrapper. There are no "my AT's", just a bunch of fun characters ready to get played.


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We often speak your name;
There is nothing left to answer,
But your photo in the frame.
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I find it helps not to concentrate on one. I have a handful of characters I really love, but I can't play any one of them night after night without alting. I do nominally have a main, but also my other main, and my other other main. And a couple more alt mains on the way.

One thing that helps with really getting into a character for me is having powersets that let me transcend the AT a bit. For a lot of mine that means adding control to an AT that doesn't normally excel at that. Keeps them interesting in the missions, anyway, though it probably doesn't help any from an RP standpoint.


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