best alpha for scrapper?


bAss_ackwards

 

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i already have a fire/regen for pvp and i am currently building a new km/regen for pvp.

i am still working on their respec builds, since i just restarted after a long break.

and i noticed that there are many new features for this game.

hence, i started wondering what branch of alpha would work the best for me, even though i am not quite sure how that works. xP

i am pretty sure i will be either using musculature for the damage or spiritual for the recharge and healing.

but then i am not too sure about km/regen since i took three range attacks. :x now i am hesitating among cardiac/musculature/spiritual for this. or should i just forget about cardiac, since the maximum range my build can get after lots of effort and fortune would be only 63 for repulsing torrent and focused burst? :/ (rather, should i just take confront to keep the range`rs close by?)

i took spirit shark for epic(and yes, i am still surprised that i can select a villan epic on hero side. ), seems like it does well for the damage. and this has base range of 80 and this is the main reason why i still can`t just drop thinking of cardiac. :x it recharges fast. (though the activation time is kind of slow...)

any suggestions?

(no fight club, by the way. :x i never had my love lying on it.)

thanks, in advance. x)


 

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Read Paragon Wiki on the Alpha slot mechanics if you want to understand the math. Otherwise, use Mids' to see the impact each one has on your build.

Alpha boosts are not locked in like enhancements. You can try a few out to decide which is for you. The bonuses add to the enhancement value of your powers, so don't expect them to make or break your build. The only thing limited right now are Notices of the Well, but that may change when I20 is released. Try them out and figure out which Alpha YOU want instead of asking people you don't know without even providing a build.


 

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hmm, don`t we all aim for mega recharge for a pvp toon? :x i didn`t think it was neccessary to post a build for them. xP

well, i don`t have mids on this netbook, so i will post it later when i can find it. (or maybe going to have to build it by looking at the build i have from the game, if i can`t find the build. ;x)

by the way, any tips on confront? to take or not to take, on a km/ scrapper?


 

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so going for muscle is better than spirit?

or is this because going for more recharge is not worth it due to dr?


 

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Originally Posted by TheGodOfGods View Post
so going for muscle is better than spirit?

or is this because going for more recharge is not worth it due to dr?
>Shrugs< No clue as to the PVP aspect but as far as I'm concerned, Spiritual was tailor made for any and all /Regen characters. +Recharge and +Heal over and above the ED cap on Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Hasten, Instant Healing, Health, all your Primaries attacks and buff powers, Moment of Glory, Integration, Instant Healing and Shadow Meld? Yes please!


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>Shrugs< No clue as to the PVP aspect but as far as I'm concerned, Spiritual was tailor made for any and all /Regen characters. +Recharge and +Heal over and above the ED cap on Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Hasten, Instant Healing, Health, all your Primaries attacks and buff powers, Moment of Glory, Integration, Instant Healing and Shadow Meld? Yes please!
This. WP too, to a smaller extent. And if your primary has stuns (Mace & EM (brutes/tanks), MA, etc)? Freakin' gravy.


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I agree. I know people could make agruments all day about Nerve and cardiac- that's fine you can have them. I like spirit and musc. Make them both and test them out. 5min of cool down to swap them out, or just zone.


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as in you tried them in pvp zones?

if so, then which one would you prefer more between spirit/muscle?


 

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for what u said prolly spirit. I mentioned Musc due to my DM preverences, but I still like +rech. Anything to get tools back quicker the better, esp on a burst damage burst mitigation battleground


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I went was musculature for my claws/SR, since it already recharges pretty quickly and I don't have many click powers that I want up really quick. Besides, extra damage would always benefit claws, right?


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hmm.. but what i mentioned = /regen. :x


 

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Hands down Spirit Tree. The scrapper I Played for pvp was ma/regen, big difference with spirit. Heals back faster, stronger. Build-up will be back faster, and since fire only has DoT as its side-effect, it wont be modified by anything, so buff your secondary. IMO. If you wanna number crunch and see if you can push acc or def or some other thing with the alpha, be my guest. All I know is with the debuffs that fly around, the 10% extra you'll be getting wont be as great as having build-up and your healing tools as often. Your playstyle/builds may differ than mine (obviously, and I'm not getting into a build posting contest) as will your milage.


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An Alpha slot topic with a thumbs down icon greatly confuses me.


 

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Heh. Well its a pseudo-pvp thread, and since we cant rank peeps anymore. That group (PvP'ers) will put down anything. Typical, competative, trash-talk/posting banter.


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>Shrugs< No clue as to the PVP aspect but as far as I'm concerned, Spiritual was tailor made for any and all /Regen characters. +Recharge and +Heal over and above the ED cap on Reconstruction, Dull Pain, Hasten, Instant Healing, Health, all your Primaries attacks and buff powers, Moment of Glory, Integration, Instant Healing and Shadow Meld? Yes please!
Spiritual is very good on a DM/Inv. It allows my (before Alpha Incarnate) build with insufficient global Recharge to achieve perma-Hasten, perma-Soul Drain, perma-Dull Pain (perma-capped HP), and about 68.11HP/sec effective Regeneration (Siphon Life and Regen combined.) It really allows for the multi-layered Damage mitigation to be that much more effective; Resistance, Defense, and Regeneration all the while giving more than enough Recharge to do the highest attack chain for DM.

But yes, I do agree that it is hella awesome on a Regen.


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Spiritual is very good on a DM/Inv. It allows my (before Alpha Incarnate) build with insufficient global Recharge to achieve perma-Hasten, perma-Soul Drain, perma-Dull Pain (perma-capped HP), and about 68.11HP/sec effective Regeneration (Siphon Life and Regen combined.) It really allows for the multi-layered Damage mitigation to be that much more effective; Resistance, Defense, and Regeneration all the while giving more than enough Recharge to do the highest attack chain for DM.

But yes, I do agree that it is hella awesome on a Regen.
>Laughs< Never said I wouldn't share Spiritual with non-/Regen characters, especially your beloved DM/Invuln bass. Someday I'll have enough time to actually get to playing a DM/Invuln. Sounds like a ton of fun and I know I already love DM.


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Ohhh... speaking of stealing a Spirit.

I just thought of an awesome Incarnate upgrade for Siphon Life: Siphon Spirit. In the new version the power also drains Recharge, debuffing the target and buffing your own. Booyeah! Lets make this happen.


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Ohhh... speaking of stealing a Spirit.

I just thought of an awesome Incarnate upgrade for Siphon Life: Siphon Spirit. In the new version the power also drains Recharge, debuffing the target and buffing your own. Booyeah! Lets make this happen.
If they did that I'd never play anything but Dark Melee...


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If they did that I'd never play anything but Dark Melee...
Well hey, I'd have the other sets get Incarnate upgrades as well.

...

I've always wanted fiery kicks and palm strikes for Martial Arts.


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I went was musculature for my claws/SR, since it already recharges pretty quickly and I don't have many click powers that I want up really quick. Besides, extra damage would always benefit claws, right?
Same path on my Kat/SR. Initially I went with Spiritual, but after crunching the numbers I found out I was already close enough to my ideal attack chain and extra recharge would only be marginally useful compared to an extra damage chunk.