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Originally Posted by Support
The VET rewards now are plenty, and I think they are running low on ideas. I just see the same ones being repeated. Another free respec or free costume change.
Here is an idea for, I don't know, how about a 99 month vet reward. You press button to claim reward while in character. Free Level - No matter what level you are, You claim this reward you automatically simply gain one level. If you are already level 50, you cannot claim. Instead you automatically collect an extra 50 Million Influence. If you don't like 50 Mil, Why not make it 99 Mil Influence? It has been 99 months. I know what you are thinking. This is so broken it gives people who have been around longer a greater advantage. I hate to say to the newbie. Well, duh. If you have been paying for this game already for 99 months, I would think that said individual should have a number of Level 50 characters already with a bunch of influence already. Giving said individual an Extra 50 Mil per level 50, I can see as a good thing. It is also a very handsome reward to look foward to. |
The idea of free inf isn't broken because only 7+ year vets would get it, It's broken because it can easily be abused solely for inf accumulation. Power leveling a character is already ridiculously easy for players, and it's even easier for RMT sites. This idea would let them destroy our already inf laden economy and send inflation careening to infinity.
We need more effective inf sinks not more horribly abusive inf generators.
Absolutely not. Veteran rewards should not contribute to a haves vs. have-nots feeling in the game between veterans and new players. It's a line that's already been crossed a couple times in my opinion, and this would be a worse idea than any of them.
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Originally Posted by firespray
Absolutely not. Veteran rewards should not contribute to a haves vs. have-nots feeling in the game between veterans and new players. It's a line that's already been crossed a couple times in my opinion, and this would be a worse idea than any of them.
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That's inevitable. Any kind of reward given to players for keeping their accounts active will be viewed by some as unfair because they don't want to wait until they earn it. There will always be people with entitlement issues that demand instant gratification.
And every single reward "crosses that line" and generates those feelings. People however have different opinions on what they deem a valuable reward. One person may only care about the temp powers, another may treasure the vetspecs, while a third may not care about any of them.
Eh.
(That being the reaction from me probably makes it fit in with other vet rewards pretty well.)
I'm not really against it, primarily because it's a single level bump for a non-50, and specifically because leveling IS ridiculously easy. You can wait for 50 and get a bit of INF (which, given what things run for on the market, doesn't look like a big deal at 50 mill) or say "Y'know, I'm (say) 31, I want my controller pets, *bing* now I have them."
Call me slightly-less-than-apathetic about it. Doesn't particularly excite me, but it doesn't sound horrendously broken. I don't think it'll really (as mentioned above) "contribute to a feeling of haves vs have-nots" at a single level, or less INF than generated by dropping any of a number of recipes at the market.
I can think of a few other things off the top of my head that would make better Vet Rewards.
Additional Market Slot
Discount on Market Fees
Reduce Day Job times by 1/3 (From 21 days to 14 days)
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As Forbin_Project said the Devs have told us they'll never give us XP and/or level bumps as Vet awards like that. Obviously they could always change their minds, but I would be extremely shocked to see that happen in this case.
As far as getting a lump sum of Influence goes that would probably be pretty useless to any hypothetical "99 month" Vet. Using myself as an example I already earn anywhere from 100 to 200 million INF a DAY on the markets spending maybe 10-15 minutes a day on it. There are other people who play the markets far more seriously than I do who earn like 500+ million a day. No 99 month Vet would likely have any need to get a "lump sum" Influence award as a Vet award.
As Blood_Beret implied the only things that should ever be offered as Vet awards are things that you can't really get anyway else. The map Reveal power is a perfect example of that. The idea of getting extra XP or INF as Vet awards, things that I've been able to get on my own for 7 years, would be very sad and disappointing. Frankly if it ever got to the low point that the only things the Devs could think to offer us are things like extra XP or INF then I would strongly suggest that the Devs just stop offering any new Vet awards at that point.
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Additional Market Slot - Great idea. /signed
Discount on Market Fees - Oh hell no. I'd much rather see an increase in market fees. We need more and larger inf sinks in the game not smaller ones. /unsigned
Reduce Day Job times by 1/3 (From 21 days to 14 days) - meh. No opinion.
An AE Slot would alos be nice Vet Reward.
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Originally Posted by firespray
Absolutely not. Veteran rewards should not contribute to a haves vs. have-nots feeling in the game between veterans and new players. It's a line that's already been crossed a couple times in my opinion, and this would be a worse idea than any of them.
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I remember back in Issue 1 and 2. Everyone had more influence than we knew what to do with. There were always costume contests in Atlas. I remember recieving 20 Million Influence in a costume contest on the Triumph server as the new guy. There was almost a costume contest every few hours. Why? Because everyone has money. Getting 20 Million Influence at level 1 at the time would set that character for a while. I miss those days.
With more money in the game than we can use be good. I say yes. People would usually just simply give it away. If you are new and someone just gave you money without asking, I see it as good.
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I don't remember it that way at all. I never had enough money to buy a full set of SOs.
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Originally Posted by Support
I remember back in Issue 1 and 2. Everyone had more influence than we knew what to do with. |
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That was because other than enhancements (TO's, DO's, and SO's) costumes, and conversions to prestige there was nothing to spend inf on. And I call shenanigans on the claim that people were giving away 20 million for CC's back in issue 1 and 2. Back then you couldn't even trade more than 50,000 at a time. |
Originally Posted by Support
I remember back in Issue 1 and 2. Everyone had more influence than we knew what to do with. There were always costume contests in Atlas. I remember recieving 20 Million Influence in a costume contest on the Triumph server as the new guy. There was almost a costume contest every few hours. Why? Because everyone has money. Getting 20 Million Influence at level 1 at the time would set that character for a while. I miss those days.
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I don't think we even had prestige back then.
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Originally Posted by Forbin_Project
conversions to prestige
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Originally Posted by warden_de_dios
I don't think we even had prestige back then.
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The VET rewards now are plenty, and I think they are running low on ideas. I just see the same ones being repeated. Another free respec or free costume change.
Here is an idea for, I don't know, how about a 99 month vet reward.
You press button to claim reward while in character.
Free Level - No matter what level you are, You claim this reward you automatically simply gain one level. If you are already level 50, you cannot claim. Instead you automatically collect an extra 50 Million Influence.
If you don't like 50 Mil, Why not make it 99 Mil Influence? It has been 99 months.
I know what you are thinking. This is so broken it gives people who have been around longer a greater advantage.
I hate to say to the newbie. Well, duh. If you have been paying for this game already for 99 months, I would think that said individual should have a number of Level 50 characters already with a bunch of influence already. Giving said individual an Extra 50 Mil per level 50, I can see as a good thing. It is also a very handsome reward to look foward to.