DM/SS Soft-Cap advice


Dechs Kaison

 

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What's up everyone. My next goal is to make a really badass tank. My original intent was to make a Invul/SS, but as I was playing online today, the topic of DA tanks came up. From what I had heard, DA becomes amazing once you've slotted some IO's in it. So tonight I tried to properly IO out a tank using some tips I gathered by lurking the forums for the bit. What I've posted is the build I've concocted. I've IO'd one tank before, but not too seriously. It was an Ice/Fire that I used for herding, and this tank is entirely a different thing. If you guys have any tips you could give me, or build advice on anything I've overlooked, I would greatly appreciate it.

Here's the build:

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Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Earth Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Embrace -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), S'fstPrt-ResKB(3), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx(3), ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5), ImpArm-ResDam(5), ImpArm-ResPsi(7)
Level 1: Jab -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(46), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(46), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 2: Murky Cloud -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(7), RctvArm-ResDam(9), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(9)
Level 4: Haymaker -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(45), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 6: Obsidian Shield -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(21), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(21), RctvArm-ResDam(23)
Level 8: Dark Regeneration -- Theft-Acc/EndRdx/Heal(A), Theft-Heal/Rchg(11), Theft-+End%(11), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(13), Nictus-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(13), Nictus-Acc/Heal(15)
Level 10: Taunt -- Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(15), Mocking-Taunt/Rng(17), Mocking-Rchg(17)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Zephyr-ResKB(A), DefBuff-I(19), DefBuff-I(34)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-ResKB(A)
Level 16: Death Shroud -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(23), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Erad-%Dam(25), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(27), Sciroc-Dam%(27)
Level 18: Cloak of Darkness -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(19), LkGmblr-Rchg+(29), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 20: Knockout Blow -- KntkC'bat-Acc/Dmg(A), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/Rchg(37), KntkC'bat-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 22: Boxing -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(43), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(45)
Level 24: Tough -- RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx(A), RctvArm-ResDam/Rchg(31), RctvArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31), RctvArm-ResDam(33)
Level 26: Weave -- LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(A), LkGmblr-Def(31), LkGmblr-Def/Rchg(33), LkGmblr-Rchg+(33)
Level 28: Rage -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(34), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(34), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(36), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(36), GSFC-Build%(36)
Level 30: Oppressive Gloom -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Soul Transfer -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Hand Clap -- Mocking-Taunt(A), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg(40), Mocking-Acc/Rchg(42), Mocking-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(43)
Level 38: Foot Stomp -- Erad-Dmg(A), Erad-Acc/Rchg(39), Erad-Dmg/Rchg(39), Erad-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(40)
Level 41: Salt Crystals -- LgcRps-Acc/Rchg(A), LgcRps-EndRdx/Sleep(42), LgcRps-Acc/EndRdx(42)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- EndRdx-I(A), DefBuff-I(48), DefBuff-I(50)
Level 47: Fossilize -- BasGaze-Slow%(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(48)
Level 49: Kick -- P'ngS'Fest-Acc/Dmg(A), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/EndRdx(50), P'ngS'Fest-Dmg/Rchg(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(40)
Level 2: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(37)



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Also, sorry for the accidental instantaneous double-post. My connection crapped out, and somehow it posted two of the same thread.


 

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Looks like a solid buld. You can cut back on one knockback reduction if you need the slot. I like taking Hover for the extra defense. If you can't stand flight controls though, you can live without it.


 

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There're several flaws with it...

1) Replace the IO in Stamina with common IOs. Unless you REALLY want that 5% movement boost, this gives better performance.
2) Take out slots from kick and boxing. Remove one of them. Either place 3 slots into fossilize and slot thunderstrike, or tale Hurl , place 2 slots and slot thunderstrike. If you REALLY must have the regeneration, use one of the freed slots into Health and slot Regenerative tissue +regen.
3) Frankenslotting Manuevers will give better bonuses.
4) You're ALMOST perma rage. Fitting in another two recharge bonuses should to the trick. You can fit one into manuevers, and you've a spare slot from above..
5) If you're willing to sacrifice a little resistance (drop a slot from toughness), you can move a slot to grab a little more N/E def to hit softcap.


 

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OK going from the 2 above...
S/L/E/N softcap...
Removed Maneuvers for hasten and added Hover, though not needed for the softcap. Rage is perma.

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You Tankers are so spoiled


 

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Thanks, you guys. I'm really liking that build, Iggy. Using some of Signpost's tips, I managed to get the soft-cap to S/L/E/N and perma-Rage, but your slotting brings the end cost down to 1.49 end/s whereas mine is sitting at 1.81 end/s. I'll be stealing some of those slotting ideas!


 

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Variation on Iggy's build.


Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.91
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Level 50 Natural Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Super Strength
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Earth Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Dark Embrace

  • (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance
  • (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  • (3) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
  • (5) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (5) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (19) Steadfast Protection - Knockback Protection
Level 1: Jab
  • (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
  • (17) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
  • (17) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
  • (29) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 2: Murky Cloud
  • (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  • (7) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (9) Reactive Armor - Resistance
  • (9) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
Level 4: Haymaker
  • (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
  • (36) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
  • (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
  • (43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (45) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 6: Obsidian Shield
  • (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  • (21) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
  • (21) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (23) Reactive Armor - Resistance
Level 8: Dark Regeneration
  • (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (11) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (11) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (13) Theft of Essence - Chance for +Endurance
  • (13) HamiO:Golgi Exposure
  • (15) HamiO:Golgi Exposure
Level 10: Taunt
  • (A) Empty
Level 12: Combat Jumping
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
Level 14: Super Jump
  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
Level 16: Death Shroud
  • (A) Eradication - Damage
  • (23) Eradication - Damage/Recharge
  • (25) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (25) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (27) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
  • (27) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
Level 18: Cloak of Darkness
  • (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
  • (19) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
  • (29) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
Level 20: Knockout Blow
  • (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
  • (37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
  • (37) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (45) Crushing Impact - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (48) Kinetic Crash - Recharge/Endurance
Level 22: Boxing
  • (A) Kinetic Combat - Accuracy/Damage
  • (36) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance
  • (43) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Recharge
  • (45) Kinetic Combat - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
Level 24: Tough
  • (A) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance
  • (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Recharge
  • (31) Reactive Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge
  • (33) Reactive Armor - Resistance
Level 26: Weave
  • (A) Gift of the Ancients - Defense
  • (31) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
  • (33) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Endurance
  • (48) Gift of the Ancients - Defense/Recharge
Level 28: Rage
  • (A) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff/Recharge
  • (34) Rectified Reticle - To Hit Buff
  • (34) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (36) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 30: Oppressive Gloom
  • (A) Razzle Dazzle - Chance of Immobilize
Level 32: Soul Transfer
  • (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (34) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (46) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
Level 35: Hasten
  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (42) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (43) Recharge Reduction IO
Level 38: Foot Stomp
  • (A) Eradication - Damage
  • (39) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (39) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (39) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (40) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
  • (50) Endurance Reduction IO
Level 41: Salt Crystals
  • (A) Lethargic Repose - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (42) Lethargic Repose - Endurance/Sleep
  • (42) Lethargic Repose - Accuracy/Endurance
  • (46) Lethargic Repose - Accuracy/Sleep
Level 44: Fossilize
  • (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
  • (46) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
  • (48) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
  • (50) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold
  • (50) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
Level 47: Super Speed
  • (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
Level 49: Hover
  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
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Level 1: Brawl
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Hurdle
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Health
  • (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  • (37) Miracle - +Recovery
Level 2: Stamina
  • (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  • (7) Performance Shifter - EndMod
  • (15) Endurance Modification IO



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Throwing darts at the board to see if something sticks.....

Come show your resolve and fight my brute!
Tanks: Gauntlet, the streak breaker and you!
Quote:
Originally Posted by PapaSlade
Rangle's right....this is fun.

 

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would someone mind posting iggy's build long form so those of us at work can have a peek? >.>

thanks.


 

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Quote:
Originally Posted by FreezeWave View Post
From what I had heard, DA becomes amazing once you've slotted some IO's in it.
I can't imagine where you could have heard that, because it's common knowledge that Dark Armor Sucks.


Where to now?
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Everything Dark Armor | The Softcap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison View Post
I can't imagine where you could have heard that, because it's common knowledge that Dark Armor Sucks.
Your video may or may not have had a direct impact on the primary power I picked for my first IO'd tanker build. :P