Apparently my thread title is poorly named... I should have gone with 'Build Critique', or 'Build Improvements?', or even 'Destroy my build like I'm a newb'. 
Yeah, I would also like some help with this power set build.
FYI - Air Superiority is one of the most broken powers 1v1 in the game. My Claw/SR is able to keep them trying to get up more than half the time.
Other than this, I could use a new build for Claw/SR as well.
Nice Build!!!
A few things I would change on it
I think you got way more endurance than you'll ever need. Leaving Stamina with just 3 PS should be fine. Using some of those slots in tough for 3 pieces Aegis to get aoe D back to softcap. Might be lower than what you want it to be though.
Swap out the def/end SW in Dodge for the +res, again lowering down the melee D.
Minor slotting change on FU and Focus. This is just how I like them slotted.
Here's the build with a couple of slots free up to maybe pick up more aoe defense
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Thanks for the excellent advice Iggy!|
Originally Posted by Iggy_Kamakaze
Nice Build!!!
A few things I would change on it I think you got way more endurance than you'll ever need. Leaving Stamina with just 3 PS should be fine. Using some of those slots in tough for 3 pieces Aegis to get aoe D back to softcap. Might be lower than what you want it to be though. Swap out the def/end SW in Dodge for the +res, again lowering down the melee D. Minor slotting change on FU and Focus. This is just how I like them slotted. |
I like your ideas regarding Stamina, Tough, and the SW +res, except I put the SW into Agile instead of Dodge to keep the Melee Buffer and Ranged only drops to 46.1%. All these changes I've implemented to the build.
As far as Focus/FU - I had enough Acc to be over 100% vs. +4 and enough recharge for the chain, so that's why I went with the D/E for the 6th slot. I wasn't sure if the damage enhancement in them going from 89.92% to 97.18%, and a reduction in end, would do more for DPS than sticking either a damage proc or a Chance for Build-up into both (since FU can take a Gaussian's proc and Focus can use the Decimation proc).
5% chance for build-up doesn't seem like much, especially if you compare to 20% chance damage proc(Mako, or 15% with ToD), but I admit that I'm not a number cruncher, so I may be completely wrong here and having two of them in the chain might outweigh the damage procs/damage enhancement.
OK, let's see what we have. Soft cap, check. A little wiggle room for debuffs, check. Running a slotted Tough, check. Great hit points and passive regeneration. Aid Self would like interrupt reduction, but at least the soft cap makes it easier to fire off. Excellent recharge. Let me pull up my attack chain thing. I have Follow Up -> Eviscerate -> Focus at approximately the same DPS as Follow Up -> Focus -> Slash -> 0.16 second pause. So if your option is a 0.396 pause, you're almost certainly better. That was with purples and the Gladiator proc, so should be pretty close. Enough recharge to run that chain, check.
For DPS, if I can trust Mids' to calculate the average damage correctly, it looks like you're better off with a proc in Follow Up and the damage/end in Focus. It's not much difference, though, so I'd probably go damage/end in both.
As long as you're spending and particularly since you're using Shield Wall sets, you might want the Shield Wall +3% resistance. I'm a fan of anything that helps Super Reflexes survive bad luck. Finding a slot is always the hard part, of course. But even if you sacrifice a slot in Tough, smashing/lethal resistance still comes out ahead, and obviously the rest do. (Edit: I just put one up for sale on the market, so I now have a conflict of interest in making this recommendation. So's ya knows.)
Iggy's probably right about having too much endurance. Your chain looks like 3.3 EPS, 1.09 EPS from toggles, so 4.49 EPS. For recovery, you have 3.75 EPS, plus 0.4 EPS from Performance Shifters, plus 20% * 7.5% * 110 / 10 = 0.17 EPS, so 4.32 EPS recovery. You're only losing 4.17 EPS (well, plus Hasten, plus status protection), and that's while Conserve Power is down, and it's up 50% of the time. Yeah, you have way more endurance than you need for almost anything. A buffer against drains is nice, I suppose, but surely there's something more valuable you can do with the slots. You could drop the Miracle, giving you a slot. And stick the Panacea in Physical Perfection, giving you another slot. Hmmm. You could put the slot back in Tough, maybe a Ribosome. Not sure. Eh, you have a free slot or two. I'm sure you can do something with it/them.
So now let me look at what Iggy did. Oooh, good idea about gutting the Performance Shifters in Stamina. That's a whole lot of free slots. What is that, four free slots from his version without losing anything significant? So, so many options at that point. You could add quite a bit of regeneration with set bonuses while improving defense slightly. You could put some health in physical perfection. Interrupt reduction in Aid Self. Not sure.
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This thread is scorching red hot.
I didn't realize that FU ---> Focus ---> Eviscerate was that good a chain ... must go off and see if Brute chain is similar in efficiency
eviscerate gets a fair amount of bad press with it's long execution and animation, but it really is a great attack with a higher crit chance over the rest that translates well. if i didn't like the purple fire proc in spin so much, it would definitely go into eviscerate.
as a personal aside on focus, i like gaussians chance to, but i enjoy the decimation more with a set of 5 apocs including the negative energy proc in focus. iirc, an approx time to b/u with gauss was 3.5 min, regardless of whether you had an active attack running or not, you were just a likely to build up in the auction house while perusing inventory as you were to b/u during a fight. with decimation, it will only go when you are in an attack mode, and the likelyhood of a b/u outside of combat was much smaller with 'last hits' stemming from focus, but entirely unavoidable.
the alternation between fu/focus/slash [w/ -resist proc] and fu/focus/evis makes for some good numbers, if not the end all be all of claw chains.
i also enjoy it for an opening hit on mobs when in a team. if no tank, then mark target approx center of the mobs, combat jump over [kite] the mob to land on the other side with evisc queued, and catch a nice group that is now entirely focused on you, in the opposite direction the team is coming from without scattering them.
although, even with a tank..... 
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Awesome news. I checked numerous threads mentioning Claws chains, which is how I have the needed recharge numbers, but none of them mentioned anything beyond the FU>Focus>Eviscerate chain being slightly lower DPS than the FU>Focus>Slash>(wait .396). I'd always wondered if having purple sets in all three attacks plus a PvP -res in Eviscerate would close the gap. |
Originally Posted by Werner
Let me pull up my attack chain thing. I have Follow Up -> Eviscerate -> Focus at approximately the same DPS as Follow Up -> Focus -> Slash -> 0.16 second pause. So if your option is a 0.396 pause, you're almost certainly better. That was with purples and the Gladiator proc, so should be pretty close.
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I theoretically could eliminate Eviscerate from the build, take Slash, and run the FU>Focus>Slash>(gap) chain, as I have 277% recharge in FU (more if I replace the Dam/End with a Rech IO), but if the difference is small, I'd rather keep Eviscerate, especially considering the high crit chance of Eviscerate and the added AoE capability.
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Originally Posted by Werner
For DPS, if I can trust Mids' to calculate the average damage correctly, it looks like you're better off with a proc in Follow Up and the damage/end in Focus. It's not much difference, though, so I'd probably go damage/end in both.
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Finally, I did rearrange some slots and took three out of Stamina. I stuck an Interrupt Redux into Aid Self, as well.
Thanks for your help Werner, and again, to Iggy.
Here's the revised build:
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Yeah, sorry, the too much endurance comment from me at least was based on running at level 50. I "never" exemplar, so I've never learned how that all works, and how much you lose. If you're losing Conserve Power, you need everything you have, and you still won't be quite sustainable, and I assume you drift further and further from it the lower you go. So maybe you're best off how you have it. I'm just so not used to thinking that way.
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So, nearing 50 on my Claws/SR and want to finalize a build, which I hope to implement prior to the second free respec.
Thanks in advance!
This build is designed to exemp down to level 27 and run the FU>Focus>Eviscerate chain gapless. I'm curious if that chain, with a purple set in all three attacks and the PvP -Res proc in Eviscerate, is as good as the FU>Focus>Slash>(wait .396) chain, assuming it had two purple sets and the Achilles' Heel -res proc in Slash?
Also, If I run FU>Spin>Shockwave, what kind of stacking can I expect FU to achieve?
Finally, would it improve DPS more to have the 6th slot in FU and Focus be the Dam/End I currently have slotted, or to stick a Damage proc into both of them?
The build should be endurance sustainable, and all attacks have +95% Acc vs. +4, +95% DDR.
Any other improvments would be welcome.
The first data chunck is using the I19 Mids patch, while the second data chunck is using the I18 Mids with slots for Health and Stamina put into Brawl and Rest. Health gets level 30 Numina's: +Regen/Recovery, Heal, and Heal/End as well as the Regen Tissue, Miracle, and Panacea uniques. Stamina has a full set of level 30 Performance Shifters. For those looking in the I18 Mids, the End gain is 4.11/s and usage is 1.02/s with Tough running. HP is at 1912 with 330% regen(26.33/sec). Defense totals = 48.1% Melee/46.8% Ranged/47% Aoe.
I19: