Computer hard resets in COH
By
AncientGuardian,
Posted on: 2010-11-11 19:26 in ALL ACCESS Gameplay Technical Issues Bugs
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Darn, you saw right through our conspiracy. You've made an enemy of the cabal, this day!|
Originally Posted by Cardiff_Giant
All sorts of people have been having similar issues (myself included) for weeks now, and I keep hearing the same 'non-answers' ("it must be your PC", or "it's spyware/malware," or "you need new drivers", _insert typical PC hardware snob quote here_, etc.
There is something wrong going on around here over the last few weeks and - its beyond CohHelper and Hijackthis - all that does is give people 'scapegoat ammo' to throw excuses at the person trying to deal with the issue. Much like yall's "collective consensus" here = that this guy's problem is an weak/insufficient PSU... |
Seriously, get over yourself. I was just trying to help. Remind me never to try and help you in particular, in the future, should the situation ever arise. You're the reason for the existence of the phrase "No good deed goes unpunished."
To the OP: I still think it's worth looking into checking out the PSU. Despite what certain people wearing tin foil hats might say about it, years of personal (and professional, ahem) experience have led me to believe it might be a potential culprit.
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Don't worry about it Coyote. The ranter isn't the OP. And there will always be types who even if smoke was pouring out of their machine would still scream that their system was perfect and it must be the game.|
Originally Posted by Coyote_Seven
Darn, you saw right through our conspiracy. You've made an enemy of the cabal, this day!
Seriously, get over yourself. I was just trying to help. Remind me never to try and help you in particular, in the future, should the situation ever arise. You're the reason for the existence of the phrase "No good deed goes unpunished." To the OP: I still think it's worth looking into checking out the PSU. Despite what certain people wearing tin foil hats might say about it, years of personal (and professional, ahem) experience have led me to believe it might be a potential culprit. |
Yes it is undoubtedly something in the game that is causing the problem. However the fact that other people with the exact same video cards are not experiencing the problem shows that the something in the game is interacting with something on the affected players system.
The only sure way to find out if it is hardware or software related would be for somebody who is experiencing the problem to do a complete reformat of their computer. Then update their windows completely to all the latest service packs. Then update the video drivers to the latest. Then install CoH and try playing. No antivirus or antispyware (not like it would matter if they did get infected if there is nothing on the computer). If the same problem happens then it is hardware or driver related, if it doesn't then keep adding software till something breaks.
I would do it myself except I'm one of those people who is experiencing no problem at all.
Don't count your weasels before they pop dink!
All sorts of people have been having similar issues (myself included) for weeks now, and I keep hearing the same 'non-answers' ("it must be your PC", or "it's spyware/malware," or "you need new drivers", _insert typical PC hardware snob quote here_, etc.
There is something wrong going on around here over the last few weeks and - its beyond CohHelper and Hijackthis - all that does is give people 'scapegoat ammo' to throw excuses at the person trying to deal with the issue. Much like yall's "collective consensus" here = that this guy's problem is an weak/insufficient PSU...
Looking at the posts in this Section/forum this evening there are at least a half-dozen threads (with multiple posters each) who all seem to be having the same problem - more or less.
I've been working on it for the better part of 2 weeks - I've troubleshooted everything in my rig hardware-wise (to the best of the info I can find on older Nvidia cards) trying to run the "wonderful, allegedly, "Unified Drivers" = in my experience they are no such thing (at least not back past the 8 Series cards/drivers). I've gotten rid of a few tracking cookies, one oldish P2P worm variant - well technically 2 nearly identical ones from the same family am "/B" and a "/C" variant - they're gone now.
Now, I haven't had a P2P client on this machine in years = back before my last complete re-install so it wasn't doing anything - Fortunately, And I'm sure their is some sort of spyware around in here somewhere.. But I don't have Office, or Outlook, or any P2P/torrent client, etc.
My guess is those 2 worm variants came from an infected PDF file - that's about the only thing outside of the other software I mentioned above it's the next most likely avenue for that sort of thing these days.
I was thinking, when was the last times someone checked the Page/Server that CoH Helper is stored on? Because I did DL that just before the worm showed up - then tried to hide in an old .Net framework file & its cousin went for a System Restore file.
I scrubbed out the registry, and a bunch of other stuff with the newest versions of the various utilities I've relied on for years, and a new one CCleaner 3._(?) Anyhow...
I'm done the Driver thing to death as well... Newer doesn't always equal better - That advice did me very little good, (if any) and took me a week to find old-ish but not too old drivers for my old nForce Chipset, Onboard Audio, and Video. I tried the newest everything from Nvidia (and multiple verison in between 195.62, 197.45, 260.99, and even went back to 91.47 at one point to pull a driver specifc to my motherboard - that afaik/have tried = it HAS to have for some stuff.
I'll admit there might be some driver out there I haven't tried yet - that will run this game without crashing like everyone else seems to be dealing with... but I can't find it.
RIGHT AFTER - a whole host of people insist that they abandon their current drivers for the newest "bestest" ones... And even folks with new systems/video cards, with plenty of Power, and no other detectable/plausible problems -- and yet they're all still having (quite similar) problems with crashing & resets!
And a few around here had - who - up until very recently had sworn this couldn't have anything to do with the game client or servers... are now having the same basic issues - off the top of my head Dark Respite is one of these folks - I just read a half hour ago or so, who'd that thought she'd had it figured out, but has fallen prey to the semi-random crashing & resets.
Earlier today I thought I had solved the problem on my rig, everything else was 100% SPIFFY, I waited around yesterday/last night ready to squash spyware/bugs = nothing but a couple cookie-trackers, and what I'm thinking is a false-positive IE 'homepage-highjacker', IDK? I don't use IE 99% if the time - aka if at all possible -so it really doesn't matter much atm.
I'm really hoping for some Dev help on this - or at least an acknowledgment that there IS some sort of problem that here... Something that isn't actually related to any of the following = CohHelper/HJT, "New Drivers", "More power", "New Parts". And that it's nothing that any of the standard go-to fixes will solve!
Aside from getting a whole new rig, But - even that seems iffy - after reading lurking around here for the last 3 weeks, people with new rigs doing all the right things are seeing the same bug/crashes/resets...