Bane and Soldier questions


Adeon Hawkwood

 

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My arachnos is lvl 14 atm. I'm planing on becoming a crab soldier. I read that they can have pets (I love playing a character with pets btw) Last night, someone told me that you can balance it out. You can choose the crab but you can also have some bane powers. Is this true? I thought that once u become a crab, you can only select crab powers. Can someone explain to me in detail the difference between the 2 classes? If I can mix both sets up, that will be awesome. Thanks


 

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You cannot mix powers from both Banes and Crabs at the same time. Arachnos Soldier's effectively have 6 power sets. All Soldiers have access to the Arachnos Soldier and Training and Gadgets power sets. Additionally you may select one pair of the other sets, either Crab Spider Soldier and Crab Spider Training or Bane Spider Soldier and Bane Spider Training.

I suspect what the other person was referring to was the Dual Builds option. You can select Crab powers in one build and Bane powers in the other (although due to limitations of the engine if you do you will have the crab backpack in both builds).

Regarding pet powers Soldiers have access to three pet powers. These are all temporary pets meaning unless you have a very high recharge build you can't have them out 100% of the time.
Call Reinforcements summons two Arachnobot Disruptors and is available to both Bane and Crabs
Summon Spiderlings summons 3 Spiderlings and is available to Crabs only

Additionally you can get one additional summon from your Patron Power pool (Mace Mastery is probably the most popular choice since it allows you to summon an Arachnobot Blaster in keeping with the spider robot theme).

Regarding recharge all three pets last for a maximum of 4 minutes. The Disruptors and the Patron pet have 15minute recharge time while the Spiderlings have 10 minute recharge. To get the Disruptors and Patron pet perma ou need a total of +275% recharge (same as perma Hasten) which basically means you need to slot the power with 95% recharge enhancement, take Hasten (and slot it with 95% recharge enhancement), take Mental Training (for +20% recharge) and get another 90% global recharge from somewhere (probably IOs). The Spiderlings are a lot easier since they only need +150% and you'll get 95% of that from slotting them.


 

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Originally Posted by jose2390 View Post
My arachnos is lvl 14 atm. I'm planing on becoming a crab soldier. I read that they can have pets (I love playing a character with pets btw) Last night, someone told me that you can balance it out. You can choose the crab but you can also have some bane powers. Is this true? I thought that once u become a crab, you can only select crab powers. Can someone explain to me in detail the difference between the 2 classes? If I can mix both sets up, that will be awesome. Thanks
Crabs are good at using pets (two sets from thier primary, plus one from thier Patron), having ranged attacks (particularly some decent AoE) and Leadership-style defenses. Don't skip the Leadership defensive toggles!
They have some melee attacks, but most builds I've seen don't focus on melee for a Crab (I skipped them, but that's me).

Banes look good at being a Scrapper/Stalker-ish melee combatant and some builds I've seen are pretty scary.

If you want to get both sets, use the "Dual Builds" option at the trainer. Note that you are stuck with the crab backpack on all costumes if one or both builds have ANY Crab powers in them.


EDIT: Here's a link to a list of Guides.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=123913


 

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What are dual builds? At what level can I choose the crab powers? Man, I thought I can mix the power bane and crab powers lol.


 

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What are dual builds? At what level can I choose the crab powers? Man, I thought I can mix the power bane and crab powers lol.
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Can't mix Bane and Crab, but you can mix Crab and Soldier.... You can throw together an interesting all aoe all the time build (major downsides are endurance costs and redraw times.)

Once you reach lvl 24, you are made to respec, but now your lvl 1 powers can come from the Soldier, Crab, or Bane powersets. But the second you pick from either the crab or bane pools, you are locked into that one for the current build, and the other powerset is removed. leaving you with both Soldier powers and whichever (crab or bane) you chose.


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